Dan Greene

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So here we are, the folks have come to label the movie, having not seen it, evil, satanic, anti-Catholic, bad for families, blasphemous, garbage, a piper of atheism. All because the author is an atheist and the work doesn't fully support the Catholic church. "Are you holding up atheism over belief in God? You tell me to prove the existence of God, yet when do you give equal challenge to the Pullmans of this world and require them to prove there is no God as this movie suggests (to litt

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"What if I DID want to find a decent children's movie with an agnostic or atheist slant?" There is no such thing. There is no middle ground. There is only, right and wrong to Catholics. "It is no simple fantasy. It is about evil being presented in an enticing and glamorous way. As the first teachers and protectors, parents would not allow their children to be desensitized to evil so that it becomes commonplace and they no longer recognize it as dangerous and seek to avoid it. I

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"How can you judge this movie without a screening?" Mein Kampf was a book too, nobody gave it much thought. Only this time the situation is reversed, nobody has seen the movie, yet everybody thinks they know exactly what is in it. "Y'all MUST stop busting Dan's chops here. I haven't heard him once say that parents who don't want to see it should be forced to see it." Exactly right, don't take your kids to see if it you dont want to. Don't let your kids watch MTV if you

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"I don't see the Catholic church, in this case, excommunicating any who go to this movie. Right Lula? There is no demand here but just a warning and this is the vehicle for it." That's because the church isn't behind the boycott, the C league is. "the reason why we will not see the movie." Which is that the movie is satanic, and portrays Catholics in a bad way, because they believe in fantasy? What exactly is the reason you won't see the movie? Is it perhaps solely be

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"Dan Greene, your intolerance of my stance to not watch the movie without seeing it first is far more intolerant than I am of his ability to make the movie. He can make the movie, go ahead, I won't stop him, or do anything to keep you from watching it. But you don't even want to let me parent my own children based on my religious convictions. Yes, the Catholics and Christians are so much more intolerant than you are, Dan Greene." Parent your kids how you wish, but don't support boycotts

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WOW your HTML implementation using your own toolbar sucks JU

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Go here, http://www.goldencompassmovie.com/ Dodge the satanic atheist, Click on "The Alethiometer" It has a view of the compass, the symbols, the dials, it demonstrates the whole working of the plot device. "The problem with that is kids dont, yet, have the ability to understand what is a pure fantasy and what is based on reality." You tell me if kids at age 10 and up, can't understand this as a fantasy plot element. "http://www.gre

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So in essence, if it isn't Catholic, it's satanic, or atheistic? Is that the black and white, no middle ground argument you are making? Prove for instance the existence of God, and I'll call your God true. Since Atheists don't believe in the existence of God, the truth for them, is that. You are making quite a stretch if you are implying that the Golden Compass, by which the plot device, a golden compass, is a meter of truth. Such a device does not exist, Or does it? Even a l

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"Catholic League is educating people about this movie." Education is one thing, boycotts are not educational, they are censorship. They are free to do as they wish, but spreading the word of God is education, Telling others what to think, based on a perception is not. Suggesting a parent deny their children/family exposure to certain entertainment is not education. Had the Catholic League chosen to take the path of opening discussion about the movie, from a more philosophical

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"Here's a thought: If a movie about polar bears wearing armor can totally topple your religious belief system then you might have more problems than you realize." LOL. Satanic, evil, atheistic. Yup, scary stuff. "That is pretty much the crux of it... but watching a movie about polar bears wearing armor instead of reading your Bible probably is not the best course of action." Why not, because the bible is better fantasy than a talking polar bear wearing a full

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I also don't think "faith" is buying into the idea that we need or should support religions leading fake safeguards against potentially different or even, heaven forbid, opposing viewpoints, directly or indirectly, through fantasy storytelling. If you believe in the bible either directly, indirectly, as absolute fact, more or less fact, or maybe just good wisdom and the best way to live your life, or maybe not even the bible but another gospel (work of the word of God) that's groovy.<br

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Exactly, since nobody has watched it, since it hasn't been in a theater yet, why boycott? It's not like movie studios are in the business of making films anti-any religion. If you want to read into plots farther than they are written, could you not make the case that starwars, was against the war in Iraq? How about Lord of the Rings? Anybody afraid that the religious messages in that movie, qualify as taking away a kids belief and understanding in God? Why single out Golden Compass, I'

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"and for you to try to use pressure to guilt people into watching something that directly attacks our beliefs." I think that's hardly what I am doing. If you feel guilt, choosing to publicly boycott a [B]fantasy[/B] movie, because it doesn't fall into line with your religion, that really is on you not me. If I have offended those who do, consider that your religious belief is yours and that of your family. It should not need to carry over onto me, should it? "I agree with you

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Sort of a jackass reporter, doing a story on lack of natural disasters. Would you think to hear or read of a story about, how it's an economy slowdown caused by lack of earthquakes in Cali? Silliness.

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I guess if home depot isn't selling wood to cover windows that could have a negative effect on the economy. Sorta like having an entire city wiped off a map in Lousiana could lol

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If I am to understand your positions correctly, and help me out. You would rather your children, not see this film, and grow up to believe in your faith absolutely. Than, see it, risk being shaken in their faith, but ultimately continue to follow in your footsteps? What happens if they don't see it but when they turn 40 or 50, lose their faith, after you are gone? What happens when they first do start to question, and can't find the answers, what happens when they can't find their way

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I guess as a free thinking individual, and in favor of that idea, that it is my opinion, that religions should be encouraging people to find answers and their own faith. Not in actively working to censor ideas which may not fall directly in line with their own. I guess it would be asking too much for people to even, have seen the movie, before you can call it "Satanic, atheistic" lol. It's a fantasy kids movie, with a theme being a golden compass, which points to the truth. I

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I cound't respond earlier

The Golden Compass in Current Events JoeUser Forums

I saw a flier, at work about this upcoming PG13 (read) kids movie lol. "Avoid the Golden Compass" Anyway, I'm not sure, if this is a hoax, or a brilliant marketing idea by the movie studio. Because as everybody knows, if you are a teenager/kid, what you do when you get warned to avoid or beware something, you try to find out more about it right. LOL. It came up again, in a religious mailer... Beware of the mov

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right, um ok.

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lol, what are you trying to say?

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the forest area has decreased. but we have trees in areas that never had or had few trees such as the great plains. where you can walk down any street and see trees that wouldn't be there under natural reasons. and to show that i did look up the deforestation. Tress in the middle of city streets, don't promote animal life, and there is minimal if any benefit to an eco system of squirrels and rabbits without higher and lower life, in urban areas.

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Daiwa, your response seems to indicate that you are firmly against the idea that this could be occurring because of in large part by man. Yet the existence of other problems, ozone depletion, acid rain, have been largely attributed to man. The surface of the planet looks somewhat different due to disforestation, and rapid urbanization. Do you not at least agree it would be wise, to perform more research and determine for sure what effects industries influence is having on global warming. It may

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"we haven't even look for oil on one continent as far as i know." Which one would that be? Oh nevermind edit lol Well it was agreed internationally way back when, that Antartica would be left alone and used for scientific research as it is tremendously not habitable, for a civilization. It's too damn cold.

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Great use of tax payer money