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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   


UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!


This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname: 
oxygen.typefrag.com
Port:
50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #576 Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 576
New team:

Me 4nana and awuffablehedgie

I call high treason to my dear friend Thundercles by that vermin some people call hedgie!!! <X3

I also accuse him of spionage of my team strategies disguised as a non-participating expectator!  :ninja:

To the stake with him!!!! XO

Reply #577 Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 576
New team:

Me 4nana and awuffablehedgie

Added to the list.  I knew we'd get nana to play before too long.  :)

What's the competion like? Is this mostly top level players, or is there a mix of skill levels? My sons and I play Demigod at LAN parties and destroy everyone there, but we don't consider ourselves GOOD compared to the pros. They've been playing all kinds of League of Legends lately. When I mentioned tournament, they said they wouldn't mind going back playing Demigod, but didn't want to be on loosing end of every single battle. Lastly, will we have any problems playing from the same IP?

There is a mix of skill levels.  It's hard for me to say how well you'd do vs so and so without having played against you, but I'd doubt you guys would lose every single game.  I don't think you'd have a problem playing from the same IP.  Of course, it would probably be best to ensure that - maybe host a game online sometime soon and see if you have any problems. 

Reply #578 Top

Quoting Maxsteel32, reply 574
 

Actually we just need someone who can play a good tier 1 Gen

I can play a solid LE if you need someone on team.  I currently don't have team, but am looking.  I admit I find the generals more boring to play but I can do anyway.  Lemme know

Reply #579 Top

i am still loking for a team,would like to find one on so we can practise together,i play a strong sedna,beast ,tb,reg,rook pm me if !

Reply #580 Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 576
New team:

Me 4nana and awuffablehedgie

if jona won't be drunk, 4nana gets his **** together, and hedgie just be hedgie you guys are going to be dangerous :)

Reply #581 Top

Jona, would you like some free booze?

 

Reply #582 Top

Quoting nacelle, reply 578
What's the competion like? Is this mostly top level players, or is there a mix of skill levels? My sons and I play Demigod at LAN parties and destroy everyone there, but we don't consider ourselves GOOD compared to the pros. They've been playing all kinds of League of Legends lately. When I mentioned tournament, they said they wouldn't mind going back playing Demigod, but didn't want to be on loosing end of every single battle. Lastly, will we have any problems playing from the same IP?

There's definitely a mix of skill levels.  LoL will be good training for Demigod since it is a similar style game.  I'd recommend hosting some 3v3 custom games and getting in some practice.  Some people have had issues playing from the same IP so you would also want to check that out. Hopefully you won't have any issues.

Jon

Reply #583 Top

Quoting nomilarac, reply 579

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 576New team:

Me 4nana and awuffablehedgie

I call high treason to my dear friend Thundercles by that vermin some people call hedgie!!!

I also accuse him of spionage of my team strategies disguised as a non-participating expectator! 

To the stake with him!!!!

 

I... Well... At a loss for words right now... this cowardly betrayal is almost too much to bear... to beer?  Heh... I'm just so distraught right now I've lost the power to spell the word bair?

 

Bad enough I've got to see him in the tourney and pretend to be all awkwardly nice like when you run into an ex:  "Hey!  Wow!  You look great!  Its really good to see you!  Wow!  Hope you're doing great!" but also he practiced Demigod espionage by listening to me tell him my super secret Demigod selection for the tourney!

 

Now everyone will know I'm playing TB.  

 

I'm off to compose some breakup poetry and songs Alanis Morisette style because my heart hurts.

Reply #584 Top

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 584
Jona, would you like some free booze?

 

No he wouldn't.  But I'll take it for him! 

Reply #585 Top

Well then, expect some pure grain alcohol.  You must drink 1 cup with a mixer of your choice within 30 minutes of playing me/nom/thunder.  *_* Jona will be required to do the same.  I will accompany said pure grain with BAC level testing strips :) :O

 

Reply #586 Top

Voting - Payout Options- Current Tally

 

They Payout Options below do not include a participation prize.  The participation prize will be a raffle amongst the teams or players who have finished the game.  Let's nail down the initial split first then work out the raffle afterwards.

 

The anticipated pot is currently $700 so I will use this as a basis for my suggested break downs:

Pot Split 1

$90 goes to the team that wins the round robin

50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs ($305 for the team, $101.66 ea.)

30% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs ($183 for the team, $61 ea)

20% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs ($122 for the team,  $40.66 ea.)

 

Pot Split 2

10% goes to the team that wins the round robin ($70)

50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs ($315 for the team, $105 ea.)

25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs ($157.5 for the team, $52.5 ea)

15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs ($94.5 for the team,  $31.50 ea.)

 

Pot Split 3

$90 goes to the team that wins the round robin

55% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs ($335.5 for the team, $111.83 ea.)

30% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs ($183 for the team, $61 ea)

15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs ($91.5 for the team,  $30.50 ea.)

 

Pot Split 4

10% goes to the team that wins the round robin ($70)

50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs ($315 for the team, $105 ea.)

40% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs ($252 for the team, $84 ea)

 

Current Votes

Split 1


Split 2
Jongalt, Thunder, Zen, Nomilarac,

Split 3

Anneliese

Split 4

Ambivalent:  orcun, baddaddy, Mithrander (you guys should vote though lol)

 

Please get your votes in!  This vote closes tonight. 

 

Reply #587 Top

After some serious games and some not so serious games I have come to question our current demigod restrictions.

Right now it appears that the dominate teams revolve around Oculus, queen, and sedna with a tier 1 demigod.

Now to fix this I propose a new  demigod restriction that looks like this:

Reg, DA = 1

TB, QoT = 2

Sedna, Oculus = 3

UB, Rook, Erebus, Oak = 4

Maximum of 9 points.

I think this will make the demigod selection almost completely balanced. If we are going to use Uberfix it will also increase Oculus's strength and he already is showing up in most of the wins in the matches I have played in.

Please reconsider the restrictions....

Reply #588 Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 590
After some serious games and some not so serious games I have come to question our current demigod restrictions.

Right now it appears that the dominate teams revolve around Oculus, queen, and sedna with a tier 1 demigod.

Now to fix this I propose a new  demigod restriction that looks like this:

Reg, DA = 1

TB, QoT = 2

Sedna Oculus = 3

UB, Rook, Erebus, Oak = 4

Maximum of 9 points.

I think this will make the demigod selection almost completely balanced. If we are going to use Uberfix it will also increase Oculus's strength and he already is showing up in most of the wins in the matches I have played in.

Please reconsider the restrictions....

I'm willing to discuss this further if other's feel the same way as cow.

 

Thanks for collecting the info again, jon.  I was just about to look it all up.  Much appreciated.  And I agree - this vote closes tonight.  I vote for option 2, but I do want to make it clear that we will VERY LIKELY be adding 1 additional item to the pot split:  the participation raffle.  We'll come up with some exact rules for how that will work out, but I think it would be best to give exactly 1 individual, selected randomly from everyone "not in the money" that completed all of their games. So, everyone is eligible as long as they complete all of their games and have not won any money in the tournament. 

I think a flat value like $20-30 would be a good prize and it doesn't exactly crush the other values.  Its not alot, but hopefully at least some additional motivation for people to keep on playing if they feel like they won't make it to the final 4 after some games. 

 

Reply #589 Top

McShane and I both change our votes for Cow's new restriction list.

 

Remember, I have his power of attorney!

Reply #590 Top

Lol that's actually great if Sedna, Occulus, and UB isn't allowed anymore, it's the only combo that has seemed troubling so far.  Especially after uberfix gets turned on so Occulus will be removing negative effects too.  I like it.

Reply #591 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 593
Lol that's actually great if Sedna, Occulus, and UB isn't allowed anymore, only combo that has seemed troubling so far.  I like it.

Yea its to good.

EDIT: After looking at it again I still see possible issues with queen + oculus/senda + Ub being a bit OP

 

So:

DA, REG = 1

TB = 2

QoT, Sed, Oculus = 3

Rook, UB, Oak, Erebus = 4

MAX = 9

I think I got it figured out now... sigh...

EDIT 2: Perhaps a vote like this is in order:

Cow's theory 1

  • DA, REG = 1
  • TB, QoT = 2
  • Sed, Oc = 3
  • Rook, UB, Erebus, Oak = 4
  • Max = 9

Cow's theory 2

  • DA, REG = 1
  • TB = 2
  • Sed, Oc, Qot = 3
  • Rook, UB, Erebus, Oak = 4
  • Max = 9

Or keep as is.

Anyway I am off to class I hope you guys can give me some feedback when I sit down later tonight.

 

Reply #592 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 593
Lol that's actually great if Sedna, Occulus, and UB isn't allowed anymore, only combo that has seemed troubling so far.  I like it.

boo... farewell to my fav combo :)  we'll see - really need to see some agreement from several folks to change this up. 

Reply #593 Top

I vote for split 1

Reply #594 Top

Cow, don't divide up the votes like that.  Just put your new theory up against the old restriction method and lets vote.

 

If this ends up a 10 way vote for Cow's Theories 1-9 and the old restriction list, I'll tell you right now we're not going to change to something better.  Now go ninja edit your original post and be quick about it man!

Reply #595 Top

I like your first theory, but not the second.  The 2nd removes a little bit too much I think.

But yes.. occulus does seem to be prevalent even w/out the brainstorm fix.. which is really quite powerful.  

Reply #596 Top

I doubt many people will go Queen and Occulus with UB as their only interrupt and Queen + Sedna with UB could be strong but I wouldn't say overpowered. 

Reply #597 Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 590
After some serious games and some not so serious games I have come to question our current demigod restrictions.

Right now it appears that the dominate teams revolve around Oculus, queen, and sedna with a tier 1 demigod.

Now to fix this I propose a new  demigod restriction that looks like this:

Reg, DA = 1

TB, QoT = 2

Sedna, Oculus = 3

UB, Rook, Erebus, Oak = 4

Maximum of 9 points.

I think this will make the demigod selection almost completely balanced. If we are going to use Uberfix it will also increase Oculus's strength and he already is showing up in most of the wins in the matches I have played in.

Please reconsider the restrictions....

The issue mostly lies with the fact that Erebus and Oak are too expensive, not Sedna and Occulus being too cheap. Occulus + Sedna/Queen offers support and has two generals, and both can back up a T1. If you use Erebus or Oak, then your choice is two T2 (most of which are generals and don't have the best synergy) or one other T1 (Rook/UB) + Reg.

If you're worried about a Sedna, honestly just use a Rook and shut her down. If they use Queen instead, then they only have one interrupt.

Basically, you see a problem with one particular combination and scream OP (when it really isn't that bad to begin with. Again, Rook shuts her down) and attaching a band-aid to stop that one combination instead of looking at the other flaws.

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Pot Split 2, though it lacks a participation raffle.

Reply #598 Top

pot split 2 and add a participation raffle!