What is your point? Is it to say that something that is a significant source of entertainment in the game should be reduced so the game is less entertaining?

Large map, normal pace. I dont have issues with the goodie huts but they should not be all lined up next to eachother, its not "realistic" so to speak, you should have to go looking for them. I also generally dont research adventure tech until I am well established so they do pile up.

don't they only spawn when the ai (or you) research the tech?

wow, and how many of those have multiple spawns on the same tile? not that it should happen, but sometimes these just pop over other poi's, such as other goody huts, quest locations or resources.

The main problem is that they are spawned instead of being revealed by a tech.

The quest objects should be created with the map according to the map definition of how common or rare quests are.

The quests should be later revealed and be visible and usable only by players who researched the appropriate tech.

This way, players will be more motivated to research the quest techs, so they can "steal" the goodies before the others do.

If there is a quest spawn over time, it should follow the same rules and exist in the map but be visible and usable only by the players with the right tech level.

BTW, more or less the same thing should apply to the resource revealing techs. They should reveal, not spawn.

Ugg my worlds are usually filled with level 3-5 goodie huts as well and since I neglect the adventuring tech It is extremely annoying to see them.

I find them to be rather annoying as clicking on something and getting free stuff just isnt my cup of tea... now if the quests were actual quests and stopped the flow of the game while your hero was adventuring through some maze or dungeon to do something then I wouldn't mind.   But the fetch quests annoy me.

A better idea would be if there was a limit to the number of goodies within an area of N radius, preventing any one spot from being over saturated. This would be harder to implement, but it would be better.

Or better yet, build on them & they don't get destroyed.

the other alternative is to simply reveal all of the sites.. except with a big question mark or some such instead until you've researched the relevant tech to know what it is and explore it.

or lots of generic dungeon types - tower/dungeon/etc... with no specified lvl stated. research past its (hidden) level will allow you to explore/etc. instead of all towers being lvl 4 or what not, you have lvl 1 - lvl 5 towers, etc.

ie.. no spawn at all.

since it's there at the start, you can't build over it.. perhaps a 1 square exclusion zone (ie.. 3x3) so you can't build around it easily enough?

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quest huts should probably be a building that you can use over and over to get different quests. (once you've finished previous ones)

perhaps even re-use dungeons - like they get repopulated every whatever turn if not within zoc, and repopulated less quickly if within zoc.

Personally, I like having a lot of goodie huts. But, there's just something not quite right about matching goodie hut availablility to a tech research improvement. It's like matching perception to research, just doesn't make sense .. people eat food not buildings. What would make more sense to me would've been to have a "perception" trait and a "search" function (right down there with the "shop," "trade," and "guard"). A hero could search any square comparing his "perception" to the goodie hut level with perhaps a random roll (higher levels are harder to find), a successful search = found the goodie hut, at which point the goodie hut appears on the map. Search could cost 1mp, say, so one guy could search 2 or 3 squares while moving.

Also, in order to match the quest or dungeon goodie huts, a restricted subset of pieces should only be allowed to venture into the quest/dungeon. Say at most only 6 or 8 champions (no multi-man squads) are allowed to enter .. in all reality a killer stack "army" would not fit into a small cave to go dungeoneering. This would also make the fighting there much more interesting, as you could potentially lose some strong heroes fighting for that level 4 quest location treasure and not just an expendable squad. It's also much less of a guaranteed-win like it is now. Wouldn't it be fun if we could actually lose a battle trying to get to that level 4 quest location treasure!!! Wouldn't it be kool if we could actually lose the game by having our sovereign go into a dungeon for that level 4 treasure & die trying to get it!!! I don't know about you guys, but that would be a 100% improvement over the auto-money generator we now have, which should only happen for the level 0 stuff which is equally matched by minimal gain (10 gold, 5 metal, etc..).

In my opinion, a level 4 quest location, or dungeoneering expedition, should be matched with sufficient level 4 monsters such that they should win 50% of the time against 8 (average) equipped heroes. Level 6 should be same with level 6 monsters vs level 6 characters. Of course, higher level characters (or better equipped characters) would increase their likely chances of winning, but at a cost of time since it will take much longer to level-up. A level 3 group can try for a level 4 quest, but the chance of success should be small (attenuated proportionally).

I completely agree with you, in so much as this would end up being fairly monotonous having to constantly perform a search to find goodie huts. However, I don't think the idea of having to actually go look for goodie huts is actually a bad idea. I think a good way to balance fun with a questing feel would be to simply make goodie huts only be visible under the following conditions:

1) A goodie hut is only visible if you can use it.

2) A goodie huts inside your influence are visible if the first condition holds.

3) A goodie hut outside your influence is only visible within a certain distance of a sov or champion, as long as the first condition holds.

Under these conditions, one could not simply look at the map and rush the goodie huts, but would instead merely stumble over them as they set out on various quests. Additionally, new adventure techs and champion skills could be created to expand your perception radius. More than likely this would make a good idea for a mod, once scripting tools become available.