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Start11 1.22 Beta Feedback Thread

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Start11 1.22 Beta Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 1.22 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and link included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #51 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting PhoenixRising1, reply 48


Quoting bncz1,
reply 47

Windows 11 Insider Dev channel build 22610

Start11_1.22-j182 Beta

If Start11 taskbar enhancements is activated then all systray icons disappear except for speakers volume and internet connection. This is similar (but worse) to a known problem with this build where just the hidden icons disappear.



The Microsoft update wasn't ready / pushed out too soon. I used the "go back" button in the recovery options in settings myself. Maybe next week it will have a "hidden icons" button.

Exactly why they rushed the dev build over to beta I don't know when they are still updating the two in sync.  It was nowhere near ready to move from the dev channel in my opinion.  I have found the recent builds to be somewhat prone to crashing.

The issue is being triggered by the MS one.  We actually fixed the system tray icons on the taskbar issue on Win11 dev last week before this MS update came out as it is linked to the hidden icons button being hidden.  An edge case as nobody would normally hide that button and it only happens on dev/beta channel Win11 builds, but we didn't expect Microsoft to then release a build with that broken!

A perfect demonstration of why we say don't use dev/beta builds however.

Whenever a build newer than 1.22 is released there will be a workaround for the missing icons on the taskbar (not the hidden icons button).  I cannot say when this will be released however.

My advice to those who run into this issue is roll back to the previous build of Win11 dev/beta or disable enhanced taskbar or live with the issue until the next MS update.

Reply #52 from Stardock Forums Top

Neil thanks for the detailed info. I use the dev/beta insider builds on a test machine. I am well aware of the risks and benefits.

FYI I accidentally on purpose decided to try Start11 1.21 as an experiment and the disappearing icon problem is not an issue for me on that build when running on Windows 11 dev build 22610

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Reply #53 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting bncz1, reply 52

Neil thanks for the detailed info. I use the dev/beta insider builds on a test machine. I am well aware of the risks and benefits.

FYI I accidentally on purpose decided to try Start11 1.21 as an experiment and the disappearing icon problem is not an issue for me on that build when running on Windows 11 dev build 22610

Yes the logic for the taskbar was changed in 1.22 to fix a problem with autohide taskbars losing the icons.  Doing so introduced a problem if the show hidden icons button was disabled.

So the current release version 1.2 should work ok too.

Reply #54 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Narusegawa, reply 18

So now when i minimize a delphi app the TApplication window is shown despite being hidden and displayed in iconic form just above the start button.



I can restore or close the application with it however it shouldn't be visible at all. This does not occur on w10 only on w11

 

Note: This turns out to not be a bug with Start11 but was a problem in my handling in the TMainForm.WMSysCommand procedure which allowed the inherited method to resposition the TApplication window. It wasn't noticeable at 4K but when I dropped the resolution down to 1080 it was made visible. I noticed it when trying on w10 as well. 

Sorry for the incorrect implication.

Reply #55 from Stardock Forums Top

With the release of Start11 1.22, we are closing this thread.

Thanks to all that took the time to provide feedback.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager