Rip site continues to rip........

http://winboost.free.fr/ are displaying wallpapers without permission, including some of mine.

I'm sure we asked them to stop it, I'm also sure they agreed to stop. No such luck!


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That's a french site, i'll leave a little message on the "livre d'Or" ...



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as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc.



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as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc.


Whats your problem man? If my works were being ripped I would start a thread here. Chill out man! >
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And where is that rule PG?
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PG would have a different view on things of it was HIS skins being ripped.
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of it was


if it was...
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#3 by The Rated PG - 9/29/2003 4:27:21 PM as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc.


That's generally true for an individual rip of someone's work which has been uploaded to this or another skinning site. In cases where multiple people could be affected we like to post the details in public so that those people can take whatever action they deem appropriate.
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I wonder if they got permission on this site where they are using the abracadabra theme by pixtudio... http://www.basehead.org/wallpapers/cars.php
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I wonder if they got permission on this site where they are using the abracadabra theme by pixtudio...

Probably not .... and when it comes to 'Cars' they aren't the quickest on the grid!
Under 'Bugatti' ( I'm a revhead, so I have to look!) is a 1939 Jaguar SS100 .... so I doubt ripping a theme is within their range of comprehension!



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#8 by Citizen grayhaze - 9/29/2003 4:36:08 PM
#3 by The Rated PG - 9/29/2003 4:27:21 PM as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc.



That's generally true for an individual rip of someone's work which has been uploaded to this or another skinning site. In cases where multiple people could be affected we like to post the details in public so that those people can take whatever action they deem appropriate.

I was going to say what grayhaze said, but he said it, so now I don't have to.

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When something of this nature posted various admins state to email them in private. Many people have the attitude of acessing rips before they are removed especially if they are purchase only and found on other websites for free...like posting a link to a free abracadabra suite, toon xp, etc. My view is Regardless of whether the skins are mine or not Kona.



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The Rated.....there is, and never has been any doubt that this site in question has and still is posting works without permission. The very evidence of this was with this actual thread that your concerned about....BoXXi is reporting that HIS walls are there without HIS permission. There's no case for innocent until proven guilty.....it's the 'smoking gun' argument, combined with the 'see my bullet wound here' evidentiary analysis....

The only issue with a 'similar' situation is whenI, for example post a thread stating a certain site is ripping BoXXi's walls.....only to find out later that he gave them consent....and I'm an idiot for defaming the site.

This is clearly not the case when the aggrieved is also the complainant.....and that particular site has a 'history'...

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ugh....'your' = 'you're'....Spell checker
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As i said before i left a note on the "livre d'Or" of this website. The Webmaster answer me that ther's was no wall on it without permission, and that all walls mention their authors (mouseover tip)

Here's the exchange of mails (in french, it's good to what you have ... )

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Bonsoir,

Effectivement, après ces quelques explications, les choses apparaissent plus clairement, ce qui n'est malheureusement pas le cas au premier coup d'oeil sur le site...
Je ne suis pas personnellement l'auteur de Wallpapers concernés, mais je suis membre d'un site que vous connaissez peut-être, traitant de tout ce qui touche à la "customisation" de PC (en l'occurence wincustomize.com)
Souvent, les auteurs de Wallpapers, skins divers, etc, se voient "piratés" leurs créations, et un "thread" a été ouvert récemment par "BoXXi" concernant votre site. Celui étant français, je me suis donc permis de laisser un mot ...
Cela étant il serait sympathique de venir expliquer votre position à l'URL suivante : https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=195712#toppage ceci permettant d'éviter tout malentendu.

Au demeurant votre site est pas mal du tout ... )

Cordialement

Philippe
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: wallpapers_sur_winboost.org


Bonjour,

Je suis l'administrateur du site winboost.org, et je viens de découvrir votre message dans le livre d'or du site !
Je n'ai jamais présenté les wallpapers comme étant des réalisations du site ou même de ma création, sauf les 2 en haut de page !
Si toutefois une de ces réalisations est de votre création et que je ne vous ai pas demander votre permission pour la diffusion, indiquez moi le nom du wallpaper et je le retirerez sans problèmes !
Une information supplémentaire, au passage de la souris sur la capture du wallpaper les infos d'auteur apparaissent (preuve que je ne m'accapare pas ces ?uvres) !
Je reste à votre disposition pour toutes autres remarques, Amicalement

Julien
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BoXXi can hop the tube to France and BoXXis his ears for him





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Bonjour à tous,
je suis donc l'administrateur du site winboost.org, et je viens de prendre connaissance de vos remarques!
comme je l'ai déja expliqué, si des oeuvres "wallpapers" présent sur mon site n'on rien à y faire j'en suis désolé, n'hésitez pas à me contacter et je supprimerais ces oeuvres sans vous posez le moindre soucis! Lors de la création du site je n'avais pas de contenu au niveau "wallpapers" j'ai donc fait une demande au niveau de mon forum ( 1ere version du site) et ce sont des internautes qui on mis ces oeuvres là à ma disposition, il est vrai que certaines étaient accompagnées de droit de diffusion et d'autres non! Et je reconnais avoir tout de même diffuser! je m'en excuse auprés des créateurs respectifs, mais je ne penssais pas faire de mal! Donc et pour finir, je m'engage à fermer en intégralité la section wallpapers du site si vous en faites la demande et ce, le jour même. Mon but étant d'essayer d'agrandir la communauté au niveau personnalisation de pc, et non de provoquer la colère des créateurs! Toutefois comme vous aurrez pû le constater mon site est entierement gratuit sans la moindre pub, car je ne souhaites pas faire de profis avec le travail d'autruis! J'espere que vous comprendrez, et je vous pris d'accepter mes excuses. Amicalement, Julien.

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Can someone translate #18 for me?....Last time I studied French was in 1969...
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Admin Jafo - 10/1/2003 6:41:46 AM
Can someone translate #18 for me?....Last time I studied French was in 1969...


I think i've already do my job with this website ... and in fact why should there be always the non english native speaking people who should do some effort ?? Hummm ???

In a short resume, that's the admin of winboost.com, who is answering to the title of the thread ...

Ppppppffffiouuuuuuu, i'm tired now ...
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Well this is what BabelFish has to say:

Hello with all, I am thus the administrator of the site winboost.org, and I have just taken note of your remarks! how I it have déja explained, if works "wallpapers" present on my site one nothing to make there I am been sorry by it, do not hesitate to contact me and I would remove these works without you pose least the concern! At the time of the creation of the site I did not have contents on the level "wallpapers" I thus made a request on the level of my forum (1ere version of the site) and they are Net surfers who one placed these works there at my disposal, it is true that certain were accompanied by right of diffusion and others not! And I admit having all the same to diffuse! I excuse myself some auprés of the respective creators, but I did not penssais to make of evil! Thus and to finish, I commit myself closing the very same day in integrality the section wallpapers site if you make the request of it and this. My goal being to try to increase the community on the level personalization of PC, and not to cause the anger of the creators! However as you will aurrez pû to note it my site is entirely free without the least pub, because I do not wish to make profis with the work of autruis! I espere that you will include/understand, and I taken to you to accept my excuses. In a friendly way, Julien.
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And #16 above:

Good evening, Indeed, after these some explanations, the things appear more clearly, which is unfortunately not the case with the first glance on the site... I am not personally the author of Wallpapers not concerned, but I am member of a site which you perhaps know, treating of all that touches with the "customisation" of PC (in the event wincustomize.com) Souvent, authors of Wallpapers, skins various, etc, see themselves "pirated" their creations, and a "thread" was recently open by "BoXXi" relating to your site. That being French, I thus allowed myself to leave a word... That being it would be sympathetic nerve to come to explain your following position with the URL: Link this allowing to avoid any misunderstanding. Moreover your site is not badly whole...) Cordially Philippe

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Hello, I am the administrator of the site winboost.org, and I have just discovered your message in the gold book of the site! I never presented the wallpapers as being achievements of the site or even of my creation, except the 2 in top of page! If however one of these achievements is of your creation and that I do not have to ask for your permission for the diffusion to you, indicate to me the name of the wallpaper and I will withdraw it without problems! Additional information, in the passing of the mouse on the capture of the wallpaper the infos of author appear (proof that I do not monopolize myself these?uvres)! I remain at your disposal for all other remarks, Amicalement Julien
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BabelFish is not tooooooooooo bad ...
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Well you can at least get the idea of what's been said.
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OK....thanks, guys......now if someone can use a 'human translator' rather than the double-plus ungood doublethink of Babel to translate the next para to send to him all will be well...

 

Julien, thankyou for your response.  The problem with posting an artist's work publicly first and then giving them the opportunity to subsequently request their removal is flawed by the fact that the permission to display the work is required BEFORE it is displayed, not after.

Your site should be set up for artists to submit their work and in so doing are consenting to its display.  Then, provided the work is in fact theirs to submit you will have no problems with your graphics sections.

The best procedure for you to follow is to remove all the walls currently displayed, check for any which have proper consent with them and only display those that do.  You can then seek other artists of interest to you and invite them to present their works on your site as well.