First substrate artillery frigates, noithing is called that? first smarties suck... the art post is great but the smartie suck.... It looks like you are unexperienced and don't get it... first you should play some with ai first... mabye you should simply play the camapagin it's good to use as a turtorial... 

since you are phc you can make factories and make a brutes and archer at a 2:1 rati and also get some medices, so you can loop in 6 brutes 3 archers and 1 medic....  use cruiser aswell.... zeus works well aginst tier 1... artemis would I have used with athenas.... since it's fragile

To Lux, you are most likely a very stupid ignorant man who probably voted for Trump.

The Substrates do have a mobile artillery piece that was hitting me WAY farther then anything my guns or swarmies could hit, and that is a huge imbalance. Doesn't matter what side you are on, the pieces should be always 1:1, PHC has more health, Sub has less but has shields. Okay that's fine, but if I can't hit them with my guns and they literally walk over me that's an issue.

Tonight got my ass handed to me again, wave after wave of enemies and I get the corner covered and he has 3/4 of everything else. I don't have time to play a game that is so imbalanced. The original game I could understand and I actually was doing good on ranked matches. Here on Escalation I've won maybe 2 games in 10. The changes are bad. I won't play anymore I guess, no point in starting a match and lose it in less then 5 mins.

Further to the above ss can't include the avatar in an army so that's macro to have him.near , unless the ss builds a listening post nearby he will.be.reliant on the searcher which is terribly weak , build some appollos and soon the as won't have any radar at all.

I play ss a lot and ss radar units are few and the range of.artillery is quite low compared to phc so you should be able to counter easy enough.  

Destructor secondary weapon although weaker can hit ground targets from memory , it's at lesser range and half the dps. 

hahaha well that escalated quickly.. usually im the one with the quick temper!

so obviously ur talking about the SS siege unit, the destructor, as u know by now it can engage both buildings (very well) and units (ok vs light stuff) in almost all games u need a siege unit that is effective at destroying buildings, to stop people (maybe like u) from just turtling and making an unbreachable defense which would lead to a stalemate. think of destructors as catapults in medieval days. PHC (as mentioned) gets a superior version of the destructor called an artemis, that fires missiles at units or buildings. it beats the destructor in both departments, for the same price. so if anything SS players should moan that PHC is OP..

as others have mentioned, PHC can build their own static artillery, which has tremendous range (3500) compared to the destructor (1500) u can build arty, but they are slow and expensive to create, but theoretically u could make ur unbreachable defense that u so crave using artillery, drone bays, radar and those anti dread cannons. but then the opponent will either flank u or bomb u. either way, defence is not best thing in the game, the game favours offensive behaviour, and map control, so the sooner u learn to get out of ur base and contest the map, u sooner u will start winning battles. currently the PHC is actually considered by many (most?) players the stronger of the 2 factions.

unfortunately in the ladder u will face a lot of players higher skill than u, but usually they should be of relatively equal skill level.. so once u apply some basic ideas u should see the destructor is far from OP..

from the sounds of it u are being beaten by the enemy rushing for map control, so either way u would lose to their superior economy. that isnt an easy problem to solve, it will take a bit of learning to beat a good player who rushes well. either way, SS is certainly not as OP as u think. it is most likely from a large difference in skill level that u are having these problems.

if ur playing the opt-in then yes arty is useless, but if ur playing 2.10 then no the arty is still good, just not as stupidly powerful as it used to be.

try build a batch of 6 arty posts and then come here and honestly say how useless they are..

That's a good thing... if you realy think you can turtle you way up to a win mabye adobt to another strategy and playstyle that does not include abusing op stuff, we all knew how insanly good the art post was before... defences are not ment to beet armies it ment to support you army beeting the oponent... 

also static defnces... they have not been overhauled... the ballance susgestion that you probly have seen from gg is just one of a couple mayor overhauls that will come.. this time unit vs unit... next buldings I think

Lol - in terms of cost, I would hope 6 Artemis could not counter a Tier3 turret with a shield regenerator. And I mean just their cost alone. Nevermind the tech time and extra cost of the most expensive orbital structure it is gated behind.

I was talking about actual arties, the buildable ones. If you dont have at least 4 they are not effective and they will be nerfed. But a single t3 sub tower can basically kill everything phc can throw at him in the first 25 minutes of the game. that is insanely retarded if you compare it with sentinel/drone bay.

lol 1+

You are dated... Medic makes it a living hell from every sub player... if no orbitals used it's an easy win for substrate... queue up the right units and you have a chace.....I was gold played a lot last season of ashes... atm I don't have that much time for ashes ranked, but still both me and Quesocitio have both played enough to know what we talk about...... Also did you know the medic is consider OP, and our caregiver can't be built dou to terrible value.... before new ballance is out it will still be better to be PHC... Substrate units has a higher cost and is less efficent atm... just look at mauler vs athena... or destructor vs artemis (it's 50% more dmg for anti building and AOE for artemis, 200 more range for destructor, seems ballanced?) 

But you can't realy argue with fanboys.... 

Today I learned that Sub mobile artillery can actually shoot at units! I didn't know they had a second weapon. I knew they could kill units accidentally when shooting buildings, but not deliberately!

The PHC mobile artillery has a anti-unit grenade launcher that should do the trick OP against any pesky enemy's, otherwise your static artillery post will bombard enemy's quite nicely as of my last game in the opt-in patch! Otherwise before the opt-in patch they are REALLY good at killing stuff.

Put 4 behind a repair drone station and you should be able to force the enemy to retreat or assault your defences! Build sentinel anti-cruiser turrets, as when repaired by the drones are basically unkillable in the early game and with dispatch enemies with ease!

A pro-active approach is also a good strat against enemy artillery, so a few sniper cruisers guarded by some brutes can easily root out some would be artillery!

Good luck!