Is this a bug, or am I not too bright?

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I was wondering about a few things; I've not played much galciv recently and I'm not sure if the following is intended, or a bug (note - single player):

 

1. Treaties. When I am on the diplomacy screen, the only treaty I can get into that the other side also offers as an option is the exploration treaty or open borders treaty. All others never show up on the other player side. Meaning, if I want to offer a research treaty for example, I can give them one as a gift, but the option never shows up as them being able to reciprocate. At first I assumed it was because I didn't have good enough relations to have them even offer the possibility, but it happens even when their relation to me is described as "close". Then I assumed it was because they didn't have the tech to offer the treaty back, so I gave it to them. Nothing doing. Basically if you're someone who likes to form alliances and try to win this way it's very frustrating. Is an open borders treaty a requirement for anything beyond it? I'm not fond of those. On another note, on the diplomacy screen, "let's talk about.." option is always greyed out - is it not implemented yet? Also, for diplomatic negatives, "you are trading with an infidel" (actually infadel because it's misspelled heh) I can understand for the Krynn, but most factions say this. Is that intended, and if so, how can you know what each faction considers to be "infidels"?

2. Ideology. I just had a game where I was basically able to select every option under the ideology tree under all three categories. Now this I'm pretty sure is an obvious bug, but the question I have is that if you select an ideology, say pragmatic as your initial choice, is it intended or not that you be locked out of the other two? I'm not sure how this is supposed to work.

 

Really interested in what it takes just to get anything past a exploration treaty or open borders treaty.

 

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Reply #1 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

1. You have to research certain things to be able to do treaties of certian types. If the other side doesn't have that tech, they can't go into the treaty.

2. No, you are not locked out but it is harder to go into a different ideology.

Reply #2 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

 

Per 1 above, I wondered if this was the case, so I would just give them the tech for it as well to see if it would then show up. It did not. Now what?

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Reply #3 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Opt-in patch .82 fixed the problem of ideology points not being deducted when you make an ideology pick, so it should be very difficult now to fill up a tree, much less fill up all 3 trees.

Reply #4 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Restarted a new game...again close relations, the treaty field on the AI side is empty despite them having the tech. Fustrating :(

Reply #5 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

STILL present in 1.0 release. :/  I have traded away the Research Treaty tech with every major and minor civ, but an actual research treaty never shows up as an option :/

Reply #6 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

You only add the treaty from one side of the table, eg. If I add it from my side the treaty automatically affects both of us. You don't have to add it from both sides for it to work, each treaty is automatically two ways.