Bacco etc


Good Morning

I've always wondered: What is Bacco? Is he a hero? A henchman? It really doesn't say...which leads me to a few more questions: I know you get XP split with heroes, but do henchmen also XP split with other heroes? With other henchmen?

Should it say somewhere in Bacco's unit details that he is a henchmen/hero?

Thanks

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I've been thinking of expanding the 'Bacco event' so that a choice of different champions/henchmen/whatever are made available when that quest fires.  That way it isn't Bacco each time.

Kind of similar to the reason why Janusk was axed from the early game.  I actually liked having Janusk around, but others wanted to see Janusk go, so now he's just a random Champion pick, not a 'may automatically recruit on turn 2' thing.

The only thing I haven't tried yet is randomizing the choice of champions that choose to face you in combat.  Certainly you chould 'choose' which Champion ends up facing you via a quest choice option, but the Dialogue/position in the dialogue options would give away which Champion you'd be facing.  So while you might have 5 Champion choices, well they'd be the same 5 Champion choices, so again, although having multiple choices besides Bacco, it'd still get repetitive after a while...

Oh, and it'd be a 'core file' modification, another reason I haven't sweated modifying it as of yet.

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What is Bacco?

Full champion, so he splits experience.

do henchmen also XP split with other heroes? With other henchmen?

No and no.

Should it say somewhere in Bacco's unit details that he is a henchmen/hero?

Henchmen don't get unique background text, while champions do. Plus, henchmen typically have names like "Torchbearer" or "Bard," rather than names which are proper nouns. While it might be useful to have something somewhere indicating that a unit is a henchman rather than a champion, it's relatively easy to see the difference if you know the above.

Other differences are that Henchmen don't have access to full magic schools unless you use one of the spellbooks on them and instead may have access to the Air/Earth/Fire/Life/Water Adept trait lines, and they have a few unique traits available (Cook, Shieldwall, Bard, maybe something I forgot), and are all of the race of Men unless created via XML edits.

Quoting tjashen, reply 1
The only thing I haven't tried yet is randomizing the choice of champions that choose to face you in combat. Certainly you chould 'choose' which Champion ends up facing you via a quest choice option, but the Dialogue/position in the dialogue options would give away which Champion you'd be facing. So while you might have 5 Champion choices, well they'd be the same 5 Champion choices, so again, although having multiple choices besides Bacco, it'd still get repetitive after a while...

You could do it in a way similar to how they did the Rats in the Ruins quest, and make multiple copies of the quest and include your differing champions there. If you wanted them to be mutually exclusive, you could perhaps include a new hidden resource that you have one or two of when you start the game and have the quest take away from that resource, if that's a requirement that can be tacked on to quests.

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Quoting joeball123, reply 2

 *snip

Thanks for clearing that up.

I've never really sunk much time into Relias so I don't know how the henchmen work.

 

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If only there was a way for ANY faction to field a type of henchman...!

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