At point in the game should the AI be able to take on a Wildland Boss?

Question: In a game with Epic tech progress all AI on Hard setting, at turn 165AC with a single level 1 city and about 1-2 outposts, and a level 4 Sovereign, should the AI be capable of defeating a Wildland Boss, specifically the boss of the Burning Lands?

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Question: In a game with Epic tech progress all AI on Hard setting, at turn 165AC with a single level 1 city and about 1-2 outposts, and a level 4 Sovereign, should the AI be capable of defeating a Wildland Boss, specifically the boss of the Burning Lands?

 

No. You're probably asking because you noticed it was cleared.

 

There is a bug where wildlands are being cleared prematurely. I think heavenfall noticed that a bunch of the spawn locations were actually empty and lootable right away, making the wildlands a joke. Also the wildlands are cleared in some cases by ai building cities near the wildland edge.

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Quoting JaboJoggins, reply 1

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Question: In a game with Epic tech progress all AI on Hard setting, at turn 165AC with a single level 1 city and about 1-2 outposts, and a level 4 Sovereign, should the AI be capable of defeating a Wildland Boss, specifically the boss of the Burning Lands?



 

No. You're probably asking because you noticed it was cleared.

 

There is a bug where wildlands are being cleared prematurely. I think heavenfall noticed that a bunch of the spawn locations were actually empty and lootable right away, making the wildlands a joke. Also the wildlands are cleared in some cases by ai building cities near the wildland edge.

I figured it was a bug, but because I was playing on a custom map I created I wasn't sure. I take it the devs are aware it or should I post another report just be to be certain?

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Quoting Strategist, reply 2
I figured it was a bug, but because I was playing on a custom map I created I wasn't sure. I take it the devs are aware it or should I post another report just be to be certain?

I always find it safer to assume the devs does not know about it.

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

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whatfore you speak this strange word... devs

methinks it be some strange child's plaything....

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i'm sure i've never seen the ai go near a wildland, and i'm glad for that.

There's one absolute truth in gaming, that people don't always seem aware of. Things are only interesting when they happen to (or near) the player. In this case, the wildlands are little mini adventures, interesting locations that are constructed to provide an experience. Specifically, a one-time experience. Once you kill the boss/loot all the caves/etc, the wildland disappears.

Wildlands wouldn't really have much point in existing, if the AI were capable of exploring them. Because they inevitably would, and you'd find more often than not, that any wildland which isn't immediately next to you at the start, is gone and cleared out by the time you get there. it may as well never have been there at all

Perhaps allowing the AI to do them only late in the game, if the human player(s) don't seem to care, might be a good idea though.

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Quoting Glowing_Ember, reply 5
methinks it be some strange child's plaything....

Hey, be kind to us kids!

~ K

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I've watched the AI try and fail at clearing the Imperium, the demon kicked it's ass. Iv'e seen them enter Wildlands, I don't think I have ever actually seen them clear one before. 

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During the beta I've heard of Kraxis clearing a wildland. But I have yet to hear of it in the current version.

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Kraxis can be kinda strong ... I mean I don't know exactly when the +10 defense activates on trained units (I think its half of total unit HP as intended, but not sure/not confirmed) ... but its certainly helped them out in the early game battles (like before the better warfare techs, like, say Blacksmithing or Weaponsmithing), or before metal is plentiful enough to build those things ...

in any case, during the days of leather, and the early days of metal, that Kraxis trait can come in hand. Also, the Fortress that gives units impulsive trait for free? epic .... massive armies of slaves destroyed by enemy Kraxis Archers with Impulsive ><

Was fun to build counters ... like leather armor "Slave Soldiers" armed with a +4 intiative dagger (and charge, and +15 strength, and +2 initiative).

and hot damn, at only 1 metal apiece, I was crakin those Slave soldiers like no tomorrow.

For whatever reason I had a huge surplus of gold, so usually I'd just pay the rush costs (at least on the front lines). And boy were they worth it ^_^  pretty awesome war.

 

I think I lost like 3, 4, or even 5 cities before my army reached their capital and conquered it. Part of the problem was that I wasted a lot of time fighting them up north (where they had many outposts and only 1 city) .... and being pretty late in attacking their south (where they had at least 2 size 5 cities ... and even more cities post peace that I haven't even found yet).

By the time I took out their capital ... they had recaptured all the cities I had taken from them in the early stages of the war. My spear slaves simply weren't enough. I needed more power (aside from my Sovereign army of course).

Therefore I designed and trained a few frost mages, as well as TONS of slave soldiers. I had only 3 cities, but between the new troops and plentiful use of that initial Strategic fire spell (pillar of fire?) I was able to put on the pounding :)

 

I think I started that war with 2000 mana, and by the time it was over (everyone had declared war on me at least once during this) ... I had maybe 300 mana.

During my war of vengeance I went down to 20 mana ... and yea. I'm making tons of mana, but using it even faster. Its really hard to save mana xD

 

at least I'm making around 200 gold on low taxes due to my free slaves ;)

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Quoting Lord, reply 8
Iv'e seen them enter Wildlands, I don't think I have ever actually seen them clear one before.

I did in my last game. Lord Markin conquered the Bhinadmi Fissure. No idea how he did it. I wanted to do it myself, but by the time Verga arrived there, everything was already cleared and Markin had settled another city. Only one or two Earth Elemental-armies were left.