[0.981] Default Unit Designs

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Are you guys interested in hearing about things that don't make sense with the default unit designs, or are they intentionally flawed to tone down the AI (Since players can make better versions)?

- For instance, the Horsemen don't have Greaves, even though it would not affect their encumbrance.

- The Defenders (Goes by different names, but same design: 1H Blunt + wooden shield and leather armor) upgrade their weapon as new weapons become available, but don't upgrade their shield or armor. If they stay that way (to avoid using metal I imagine), then they have no need for the Strength trait. The same goes for the Unfalling Legion of Krax.

- Warriors have 83 encumbrance. Removing the Leather Vambraces would change their encumbrance level from Heavy to Medium.

- The Leather Vambraces show through the warcoat the Disciple wears. Switching to Leather Boots instead would fix the problem. Although, if the Disciple is intended to be Pariden's version of the Warrior (using the Sindarian Staff) then a full suit of leather might be the way to go.

- Magnar should use slaves for their Scout unit.

- Mage isn't showing up at all. I think that's a known issue though.

 

Anyway, post if this is information you're interested in and I'll endeavor to reach more high tier designs.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

- For instance, the Horsemen don't have Greaves, even though it would not affect their encumbrance.

Interesting.

for the rest, really nice of you to post these, I almost never use the premade units as I think them awful, so thanks to post these. That said the AI uses the current designs you made yourself, when you visited the race, so they are not toned down on purpose, they are just... meh ;)

I think it would be a good idea somewhere close to release to have a "upload your custom units" things, so SD will get a lot of user made units to choose from.

Dunno if SD themselves are interested though, I guess there is some interest as always.

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

I think that's a great idea personally. seanw3 tried to get something started a few months back for modders.

It is how I make sure the AI builds reasonable units for Stormworld - by providing custom unit designs that only the AI can see.

Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 2
by providing custom unit designs that only the AI can see.

Hm why not letting the player see them?
Not saying its wrong, just curious

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Well, speaking only about my mod now. It already has the standard unlocks so I don't want to swamp the player in unit designs that he can make himself. Once you get past 20 or so unit designs they sort of blur together.

I'm actually thinking about hiding all the unit designs from the player except pioneers, scouts and militia. Force people into designing their own units.

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

Thanks. Hopefully SD will notice this.

 

If the units remain as they are then I would prefer a mod that simply removes all of the default unit designs except the Pioneers.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Trifler500, reply 6
If the units remain as they are then I would prefer a mod that simply removes all of the default unit designs except the Pioneers.

Poor AI players...
^_^

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Kongdej, reply 7

Quoting Trifler500, reply 6If the units remain as they are then I would prefer a mod that simply removes all of the default unit designs except the Pioneers.

Poor AI players...


Sincerely
~ Kongdej

Just for the player. lol