So... couple of thoughts here. One I don't like getting up up with how the story progressed in TRS. Second, there are examples of Cylon's working with Colonials which could be expanded on as part of gameplay. For example, not all Cylon's agreed with Human extermination and even tried to protect Humans or allied up with Humans at various points.

To that end what I like about Sins is each time you start a game it represents the start of your empire which means the story could unfold differently based on different circumstances at the time or how the gamemaster sets up the teams. The issue primarly only pops up in FFA's which can be controlled with Racial Inclination towards other factions. In this regard Cylons can be configured with a heavy negative modifier towards most human races. A heavy negative could be applied to Colonial, Tech and Hypercorp. A more neutral stance towards Advent, Rogue and Vasari, and friendly stance towards other Cylons.

As the Envoy is mainly a mechanism for increasing diplomatic relationships and would only be sent once a cease fire is achieved it could be about anything. The saucer basestar from Sot13t is one possibility as it's not currently being used in the mod. If you like Stalcore's idea it could be a captured ship design from any of the model in Coxxon's fleet.

I hadn't put too much thought into yet as Diplomacy is the most rigid piece to mod limited to pretty much the envoy 3d model and it's abilities.

Cylons would require diplomatic vessels in order to establish ties with other Cylon races... or other "non-human" races, as you have mentioned Z.

Z... Do you mean the small Attackstar models from Kyogre12's mod (if so, the texture was pretty crappy so I imagine this will be changed) or the actual original saucer basestars? I think that if you meant the latter, may not fit as the old school basestars were heavy attack ships (although obviously their functionality could change) - perhaps you could add some limited weapons to the diplomatic ship? Would need to use the texture from Larkis' mod for the old school ship as it was pretty spot on. 

I am currently working on a group of scenario's that takes place after events of the new series. Basically, what happens to the Cylons after they leave the earth solar system in the rebel basestar - a pure Centurion race. It leads up to another confrontation with humans of Earth in 2,300AD, considering that we know that the human race follows a very similar technological evolution to past societies - "this has all happened before, and will happen again". 

In the time period between 150,000 years ago where the series left us, to 2,300AD, the Cylons face wars with Cavil's remnant forces, Hypercorp and Vasari, all in the lead-up to re-establishing contact with the Earth system which has developed in a similar way to the 12 colonies. 

Cylon development is represented in the form of new ships i.e. Boomer class, new star bases, advancements in Centurion design and research, and other new and advanced cylon basestar models which is reflected in ZombieRus5's mod. 

How about the Worldstar model from Kyogre12s mod? Could that be the diplomatic ship? Its small and would fit the profile - 

Might have but it's still the carrier capital ship with a few texture adjustments.

Right, plus locked team scenarios that allow the player to join up humans with cylons. 

In either case I think I have a model/texture that is saucer based but not a full on Basestar. I'd like to get something else saucer oriented in the mod and feel this is an easy compromise.

This sounds pretty cool. Will be fun to play through.

Hey, sorry I didn't get a chance to reply before. I thought it could be done by having the civilian ships have positive abilities that target capital ships (say +1 metal/s for 20s for a refinery and +50 antimatter over 10s for a refueling ship, +5% weapons damage for a munitions ship). It would force you to guard your civilian ships for them to be productive while at the same time encouraging you to bring others into battle just behind your caps as free support ships. If capturable ships were added to a special cylon militia set then any map would work... although a map with no colonisable planets (other than asteroids) around a starting star and Earth around a distant star would be interesting to have simple alternate "fleeing with a convoy" feel, without requiring scripting... although a full map with all the trimmings would be interesting too.

Still, hope you keep having interesting ideas for this and the other mod stuff and hope to give them all a play when I have a chance to do so.

Also... I would like cylon diplomatic ships to be able to hold their own in battle... having a nice peaceful set of capital ship strength basestars orbiting around my planets would make me think twice about both declaring a ceasefire and declaring war with a cylon AI. (although the AI does like to send lots of envoys and I don't know how it deals with expensive or combat capable diplomats) Also, old style basestars would be nice... sending old models to areas away from combat and the new models to the front lines makes sense to me.

Same here. I'm trying.

I've given weapons to the Rogue Envoy so I know it works to do so. I actually sorta like some factions Envoy's being a little more on the dangerous side. That said they can't be too tough as people could exploit them. We'll get something done with some old saucer type ships though.

Quick update

I'm using the Chimaeia (formally frigate factory) with a new texture as the Cylon Envoy.

I'm using another model (Medusa) from ravenstarstudios as the cylon refinery.

We're already using the Hydra as the military research lab.

I'm trying to get another warstar variation from Koobalt textured for the Hangar bay just having issues finding time to texture. 

Still have more stuff to wire up like the resurrection hub, but it's getting closer.

Sounds awesome!

Will you give the envoy ship weapons? 

Will you wait to release the next version after Rebellion has been released or prior? 

I might give the envoy weapons... Mainly working on getting the models in the game with proper icons and buttons.

I'm not too concerned about Rebellion to be honest right now. Hard to say how long it will take to merge into Rebellion until it actually comes out. I'll probably do another beta version of R6 this week with more Cylon improvements as well as some other bug fixes I've found like the Cylon's weapon points weren't all oriented correctly causing the ship to stop shooting in some circumstances.

Franknfurter... The problem here is, as I understand it, that Sins will require each player to start off by owning a planet. If you just started off with a capital ship and a few other support ships without a designated home planet, (considering that the 12 colonies have been destroyed) the map simply wont work and will think that your faction has been immediately defeated. 

Also, in your scenario, the Galactica would require a colonize ability (maybe it already does?), if it doesn't, you would need to add this ability to the ship for this scenario so that you may colonize earth when you find it... 

I think that when Rebellion is released, a new version of GalaxyForge will also be released that will have "triggers" so that scanario-type missions can take place... 

Hey Z... wondering if you could help me with something? Do you remember how I asked a few weeks back about some advice on how to design an asteroid that looks like an old school basestar has crashed in to it? 

Well a buddy of mine helped to make it, but it doesn't seem to be working? My buddy is out of action for a while and doesn't have the time to look at it... If I shoot it through to you, could you have a quick look and tell me why the mesh isn't working? 

Will the next version only allow you to build one Colony for the Cylons? 

Hi, if you like i can make some Boomer alike texture for this model, just post for me the .obj file you use (i have so many VIP version that i have no idea witch one you use 'lol')

KOOBALT!! you're back! Yeah! 

How have you been man? 

Sure. load it up to a file sharing service and PM the link or post it here.

No. You'll still need to load the flagship core.

Hehe, understand that. Hope things are going well.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5790092/sotf/bloodandchrome/Warstar_tesealte.obj

Working, working and more working... and i bought a car    now i'm working to get money for fuel...  

some time not been here i see you progress nicely, i see this model have no uv so will make it.

Need more voices

I actually had room to integrate these as I forgot I had set aside some of the count for the Cylons. Only problem now is I've overused these sounds making it really monotonous overtime  

No worries.... I'll get some more for you.... should be fun. 

When you have them all dowloaded make sure you DELETE your previous R6 folders before you unzip these 

Is it just me, or is there no SotF Race Colonial R6.2? I see Race Council, Race Cylon, and that's it for the c's.

Fixing... selected the wrong folder when I built the zip.

Edit - links are fixed.

Wow! So what is left now? The research trees? and the sounds that you need from me? (and the retexturing that is needed) 

Thanks so much Z, much appreciated. 

I know that the .bmp needs to be converted to .dds, but I tried to convert it and it still didn't work, so I thought I'd give you the original files that my mate gave to me. 

Have uploaded it to http://www.gamefront.com/files/21336954/crashedmesh.zip

ok here you have model with ready UV if you would like to give it a try, i will make the texture (hope before sunday)

http://www.mediafire.com/?67957ngk9115hb1

ok some test of cylon:

1. you switch the icon for Guardian Mk1 and Mk2 or models (depend what you want to have as mk1/mk2) 

2. how can i build Boomer class or Colony i didn't find any ship to do that??

3 The Cylon starbase WOW it looks better than i remember 

4. yes the sound of hybrid... especially the "jump"... well i don't know what to say 

5. Is there a chance, or some tutorial how to do the race icon (you now the icon that float above your ship and planet) i wonder  can i make or you make   icons as number: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 ??

If any of this question was reply sorry but i'm to lazy to read all post since i was last here