How about giving us some discount ?

lol

"Us"?  Who are "us", exactly?  Of course that will make everyone who had enough faith in Stardock to pre-order Elemental (in quantities sufficient to actually cover the development costs) really happy, won't it?!

They're already willing to give out the first expansion free to those that obtain the game early enough. I was a collector's edition pre-order, but I have confidence that the game will eventually be worth what was paid. Lowering the price could hurt an already hurt Stardock. They've pretty well written the game off as a financial loss but are still committed to fixing what is wrong with it.

So technically, whatever price the expansion goes for is going to be something that we wouldn't have to pay, so we are getting a discount in a way, in spite of Stardock's already hurt finances. I believe Frogboy made a post recently stating that they'd actually increased the Elemental team in order to speed up things and fix their mistakes, creating a game that the gamers want.

This is just my thought on any sort of a discount. People who purchase the game after all the hardships and issues are fixed shouldn't profit from what those that supported the game from the start were given, because it's our support, not future support, that is getting the game fixed in the first place.

That's like discounting the next generation of a car because the first generation buyers found a flaw and it was fixed. Only the original owners should benefit, because future buyers are getting their money's worth.

Herston beat me to the punch, looks like. That's what I get for being long-winded. <3

They can't give discounts because of retail problems. Basically, they would get in trouble for underselling. That's why they give out free expansion.

I won't write what first came to mind, nor the second or third thing.  I'll leave it at that.

I will write the first thing that came to mind "Hahahahaha... No."  The second and third things I won't write though except to say see Hertston and Tydorius's posts, they said it quite well.

I jumped in at 1.08 and was aware of the problems.  I'd urge Stardock to increase the price of Elemental every time they improve (not FIX, but improve) the game.  I mean, why not?

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Its worth the asking price.

Stardock fanboys . 

Since you are so cool, explain why it would make sense for them to lower the price? 

Are they going to have a big stack of digital downloads that they can't store too long?  Are the bits and bytes going to go stale? 

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Actually games are quite cheap these days.  Compared to paying  $29.99 for any intellivision game back in the 80's,  games should be priced higher than they are.  I'd gladly pay for the expansions and we should.  I thank Brad for wanting to make good on this game and willing to give away additional content.  $50 is nothing today,  you can make that begging on the streets of America in a few hours.  I see gamers out there all the time. "Will work for new game release".   Go for it..............................

Elemental is a finished game and that is why it is $49.95.  The people who have a right to grumble would be the people who pre-ordered the game or were people who purchased the game in the opening days when there were serious technical issues with it.

Someone who wants to wait for the game to be discounted can certainly do that. But they won't be getting the free expansions.

I don't appreciate the fact that just because we don't believe people coming onboard after the problems are fixed should get free stuff like those that supported the game from the beginning, that makes us fanboys.

I believe in the game and I'm enjoying watching it evolve into something better. It's actually a new experience for me to see a game change as the players will it to do so. It's almost like I'm getting half a dozen different games over the course of a few months, each one being a little different and a little better.

I am not a Stardock fanboy. If Civ V had these issues and the company was willing to stick with it and fix it, I'd be saying the same thing for Firaxis. Same with any other game.

Supporting the developer that is fixing their mistakes and taking responsibility for them isn't being a fanboy, it's being a consumer. Developers like Stardock are supported because they care about more than just money. Frogboy's stated several times that he's in this for us, not for the money or the programming. He loves the communities that come with the games.

I'll be here long after the show's over, and I hope Stardock doesn't change their approach to post-launch development. I pray the day never comes that they are bought out or pressured into such a change.

Hmm. So like... wait 2 years and pick up the Elemental Compilation on an Impulse Weekend Sale...?

Problem solved.

I've already gotten $50 worth of entertainment out of it, so if Stardock wants to give me more with patches and expansions, even better.

P.S.  I love the thumbs down on the fanboy comment.  That added such a nice touch that really made me LOL.

I said 2 years to get the the trolls out of the way for a longer time.
Okay, so I'm naive. So what?

@ Gazz_ 

Or I'm the one being naive for preaching to the choir lol.  Had just wanted to interject that point of supporting continued development by buying the game now vs later.  But your method of directing the perpetually malcontent to wait for a bargain bin purchase, might be the better tactic.  Those who are frequently disappointed to the point of public rage, might be better off just waiting.  I hadn't meant anything I said to be directed at your posting or person. 

It all depends on ones motivations I guess.

I make games largely because I like being part of gaming communities. That's what got me into making games in the first place and why I spend a disproportionate amount of time here.

It's why I buy games when they're new. I like being part of the community in question when it's at its most vibrant. 

Someone can pick up Galactic Civilizations II for much cheaper now but holy cow, was GalCiv2.com an exciting hotbed of 4X evolution that resulted in some great stuff like Dark Avatar and Twilight of the Arnor.

Elemental has far greater potential than GalCiv II ever had and the community is easily as good.

I agree with the release excitement Brad.  I enjoy the communal buzz that comes with a new release.  That buzz is even greater since the developers are active in the community.  I can't stress enough how much I admire and appreciate Stardocks openness and participation within the fan community! 

I am currently unable to purchase Elemental because I'm still financially recovering from an emergency home repair.  But I am still enjoying the communal buzz here.  I check for new dev journals as part of my morning ritual.  I watch people playing the game on YouTube.  I read the forums and longingly check out the cool mod works.  I'm enjoying this despite not having the game yet!  I just can't wait for it!  I have no doubt that Elemental is destined to epicness.  In years to come I will look fondly back on these first days.  A new age in TBS gaming has dawned for me.  I will look back on this beginning as I have for Civ I.  A new king is born.  And I am enjoying the process!

yep look at elemental like a investment i payed 50 bucks and i get elemental first expansion and second expansion worth 100bucks

I am not a fanboy is that sense.  I am a fan of the company and their work. I am a male.  There.

I am happty with the product and expect great things from the company.  I complain like everyone else that paid when I am unhappy, and little by little my concerns are being addressed.  No company out there communicates with us like that, none.

The end.

We're getting the expansion packs, isn't that good enough discount?  And shit, don't call me a fanboy, I'm just as likely to bust Brad's balls as I am to offer him praise with this game. 

And more than just getting a good deal; people who purchase Elemental: War of Magic now, are helping to usher in a new age of TBS gaming.  Every purchase is a building block for what is to come.  People who buy the game now, can look back and say "Yeah, I was there in the begining.  I was one who supported the franchise from day one.  Look at how great the series has grown!  If not for our early support, Elementals growth may not not have been what it is today.".