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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   


UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!


This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname: 
oxygen.typefrag.com
Port:
50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #701 Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 690
Who is lord_orin and why do I not have a vote in the panel since i Have played this game longer than anyone still here

I was in the focus group for SupCom (mainly active total Annihilation grognards who made mods, helped new people, and also wrote articles), and we all discussed demigod before it was even in development. There are several people here who were involved with demigod around 2004, and their influence is easily recognized if you could read the old forums. eg: Concepts, specific names, game paradigms/mechanics.

If you want some examples I can tell you where concepts originated.

-TB is drawn from Ignus in Planescape:Torment (manic laughter included)- and the discussion included how fire and ice on Ravel was an interesting dichotomy.
-DA is drawn from reptile in mortal combat II (too bad invisibility didn't work out in game mechanics)
-The name Regulus comes from the desire to name a character after a constellation/star. The discussion was a strange tangent that started with the whole hunter Orion mythology and a nasty beast to be aligned against (UB) and somehow was sidetracked into start trek II and the regula 1 research station (hence regulus)
-Rook comes from Battle Chess
-The name Occulus comes from one of the bosses in Dungeons Explorer simply because it was cool.
-Specific desire to be micro unintensive, yet deep mechanics based on timing. including a discussion for assassins to be for Gauntlet like players and generals to be for RTS guys,

I dunno, point blank you are a great player, but you behavior towards others shows your bad judgement. 1337 player are notoriously bad at looking at all angles of balance for a game. Not everyone can do the things you can do, and it is important to NOT design a game around what the top players can do. (this was also a discussion)

Reply #702 Top

heh orion. 

Reply #703 Top

interesting insight!

Reply #705 Top

you should have seen the post i deleted :)  you are welcome, btw.

rumor mill has it that kalel is replacing hedgie... ooooo

 

Reply #706 Top

it should be accurate

Reply #707 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 706
it should be accurate

updated the op to reflect kalel replacing hedgie. 

Reply #708 Top

New team: Commando5551, Rezzan, and T-Schert

 

I hope that's all I need to say...

Reply #709 Top

Quoting Commando5551, reply 708
New team: Commando5551, Rezzan, and T-Schert

 

I hope that's all I need to say...

Added to the roster. 

Reply #710 Top

jesus this tournament will take decades. We need a rule in case a person deceases!

Reply #711 Top

Proposed rule:

Zen_God is required to ressurect all players who decease during the tournament. 

j

Reply #712 Top

Yes Zen, Jongalt and I need to be able to name a successor should we die of old age before this tournament ends.

Teseer ol buddy, are you lurking around the forums?  Would you consider carrying the torch for our team if I don't make it?

Reply #713 Top

guys - we need to do some additional advertising of the demigod sale and the tourney.  Most of us have been around for quite some time and getting new blood into the game is very important.  Don't just sit on your butt because we already have a decent pot for the tourney.  Help out!

I'm going to post the sale at slickdeals.net tonight and will pm a few folks over on joystiq.com.  Can someone post at fatwallet.com and cheapassgamers?  Let's draw some more attention outside of the email that went out from SD. 

Edit - here's what I posted over at slick deals - you guys are fully welcome to copy this and paste into the other sites: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=190314&t=2291933.  Let's get the word out.  And FYI, I don't work for SD.  I receive no money from SD.  I'm just a DG fan and I'd love to not only see this game be successful, but see a sequel at some point because its financially viable.

meh - a mod copied my post on slickdeals and moved it into another thread with very little descriptions... woo for them.  Anyway, my post is now here:  http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=190314&t=2277351

Reply #714 Top

Cheapassgamers already has the sale posted, i also just posted on fatwallet.com

I copied your description Pacov :) thanks! lol  I dont have time today to type up a separate one.

j

Reply #715 Top

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 714
Cheapassgamers already has the sale posted, i also just posted on fatwallet.com

I copied your description Pacov thanks! lol  I dont have time today to type up a separate one.

j

Thanks, jon!

Reply #716 Top

Bloodowl pm'd me and let me know that his team has disbanded - removing BloodOwl/Richz403/DaddyMandingo from the registered teams. 

Reply #717 Top

Bloodowl pm'd me and let me know that his team has disbanded - removing BloodOwl/Richz403/DaddyMandingo from the registered teams.
sadface

Reply #718 Top

sadface

yeah - but better they sort this out now than after the tourney starts.

I'm adding another rule to our tourney:

  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team.  

For those of you who didn't participate or follow our first tournament, rules like this are important - especially because its up to the players to schedule their own matches.  We will open up a scheduling thread so people can more easily get in touch with everyone before the tournament starts.  But everyone should be very aware that THEY need to be proactive in getting your matches in.

On that note, I'd really like for us to make a coordinated effort to get in several games the day the tourney begins (10/16).  I think that will help out some of the folks that will struggle getting matches in.  Ideally, if several teams would commit in advance to being available to play at X time, that would be great. 

 

Reply #719 Top

I made a mistake, my in game profile is named Commando51.  Not sure if that's important, just letting you know.

Reply #720 Top

So I have a team that I would like added to the tournament, the members are me (arkANG3L), swordguyj, and Firefromthesky.

 

My brother and I have  been trying hard to get other people to play. I think We talked 6 other people into joining. Love demigod, just never play online. So probably not going to win the thing. 

 

Question, what time are the games supposed to start on Sat? 

Reply #721 Top

i'm not sure if this has been mentioned already, but the uber fix mod is creating a critical error when I play online. I'm not sure what's causing the desync, but since the new version is needed for the tournament I'm trying to fix it ASAP. Has anyone else had this problem?

Reply #722 Top

causes a crit game state if there are different versions in the lobby.  Make sure everyone in your game has the same version

Reply #723 Top

is there another possible cause? we have the same version, so I don't think that's what it is.

Reply #724 Top

Quoting Commando5551, reply 719
I made a mistake, my in game profile is named Commando51.  Not sure if that's important, just letting you know.

its no problem.  I'll change it for you.

 

the members are me (arkANG3L), swordguyj, and Firefromthesky.

adding your team.  Welcome!

Question, what time are the games supposed to start on Sat?

Well, our tournament might work a little differently than you think.  All of the games won't be played on Saturday (if you do the math, we have 15 teams that all have to play each other once and some games can take up to an hour).  In fact, I expect the tournament to take a few weeks to wrap up.  But that said, I am going to make an effort to get several teams lined up and ready to play on saturday, but I don't know the time atm.  I'll post some more details when I have them, but please feel free to indicate here when on Saturday you (and all teams are requested to do this) are available to play this Saturday.  It would be great if all of us got at least 1 match in on Sat (10/16)

 

 

Reply #725 Top

is there another possible cause? we have the same version, so I don't think that's what it is.

So - if you all disable it, do you still get critical errors?  We'll definitely look into this. 

You do have the version I linked to in the op?  Here's a direct link to exactly what you guys should download.  Please try that again (and remember, EVERYONE - even the people you are playing against MUST be using the same version or the crit will appear).  http://code.google.com/p/uberfix/downloads/detail?name=UberFixv103_RC2.zip&can=2&q=