Raloz and Neruda cruisers need shields.

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While this may be a minor issue, but rather weakening for TEC. Out of all the envoy cruisers (And the Talion Savior), TEC's Raloz and Neruda ships lack shields. This would be a virtually nonexistant problem, but neither get shield migitation.

Is there any reason that they don't have shields? It makes the Raloz and Neruda far less durable then their counterparts.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

Well, the Raloz isn't meant to be anywhere near anything that can shoot it, so shields (or lack thereof) should be a redundant point.  The Neruda, on the other hand, frequently encounters hostiles (militia, hostile enemies you're trying to placate etc.)  so giving it shields (and therefore shield mitigation) would be a good idea.  This is especially true if the Vonturak and that santa's-sleigh thing have shields.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

But the Neruda does get the option to be temporaryily invincible which helps a lot

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Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

I think the envoys should be permanently invincible, so you can gain rep with a faction without micromanaging that ship for 20 minutes. Its not like they would be unbalanced if they are invincible.

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

They were initially, but it was found that they were too easy to use as invincible scouts so it was dropped.

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

Yeah, they are a pain to micromanage. It's kinda goofy how a rival empire will respect your diplomatic immunity for 30 seconds, then open fire for 120 for the cooldown, then respect for 30 seconds... over and over and over...

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Or you can wait until a cease fire at 3.5 relations before sending them in. The immunity is meant to help them deal with temporary dangers like passing a hostile grav well or getting out when an invading fleet comes.

Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top

How are you supposed to get a cease fire without the envoys?

Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top

Do a mission, research techs to give you the +3 bonus, research resource giving and its related techs, which lets you get another temporary +3 with a very small donation, giving you enough time to get envoys in. Keep your fleet strength up so you don't have the fleet penalty dragging you down.