Exploit or not?

Anyone else tried this?

from Sins Forums

I apologize if everyone else and their mother already knows about this, but I haven't seen it discussed yet, so....

At any rate, select the Akkan as your opening capship with TEC, and get the colonize ability.  Go to take your first planet.  When you get it, you will spawn a free resource extractor.  But that's not good enough, you want the others free too.  So DO NOT WASTE MONEY UPGRADING THE PLANET YET, rather, scuttle it.  After it is scuttled, colonize again to get another free extractor.  Rinse.  Repeat.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

Nah, It will cost you a capital ship and some negative income.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

Well, you can only colonize every 120 seconds at level 1... so to get 3 free extractors, you need to spend 4 minutes (first colonization and hence first extractor has no cooldown to wait out) to get structures that are worth at most 750 credits.

I think the reason why this isn't exploited is fairly obvious.

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

With the negative income you will undergo while abandoning the planet (which will cost you more than you saved on extractors), as well as the lack of being able to use your Akkan during that time, this is no exploit at all.

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

 

I agree with Beric01; I don't think I'd want my colonizer capital ship to sit around doing nothing for 120 seconds early in the game.

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

Dropping a planet takes about 60 seconds (iirc, not something I do every day), and with underdevelopment at about 2.5 credits per second this will run you about 150 credits.  So yeah, in theory you're making a savings.  However, your colony cap's time is worth more than a few free extractors, it's much better to just get moving.

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

Once you get level 2 colonize, however, it isn't a bad option to fly in to a 4 mine lava/ice, colonize immediately, let the pirates kill the planet or scuttle it, whichever comes first, wait till you kill all the pirates, and then recolonize before you leave. I've done that a few times, and while rare, it's a slight bonus to the eco.

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Raging, reply 6
Once you get level 2 colonize, however, it isn't a bad option to fly in to a 4 mine lava/ice, colonize immediately, let the pirates kill the planet or scuttle it, whichever comes first, wait till you kill all the pirates, and then recolonize before you leave. I've done that a few times, and while rare, it's a slight bonus to the eco.

Yes, when I tried it before creating this thread, it was with level 2 colonize, which gave me 2 free resource extractors.  I then scuttled while at the same time fighting heavy militia (something I had to do anyway, so time with my capship wasn't being wasted), and recolonized to get the third extractor just as I was finishing up with the militia.  (It would be better with the 4 extractor planets as you said.)

It might also be of benefit to do on some heavily defended planet which has 3 siege frigs.  Will 3 siege frigs take out the colony before scuttle can?  If so, you are in the negative for less time, cashwise.

At any rate, thanks for the comments, and I'm glad to hear this isn't an exploit.

Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Raging, reply 6
Once you get level 2 colonize, however, it isn't a bad option to fly in to a 4 mine lava/ice, colonize immediately, let the pirates kill the planet or scuttle it, whichever comes first, wait till you kill all the pirates, and then recolonize before you leave. I've done that a few times, and while rare, it's a slight bonus to the eco.

True, but I don't think it should be labeled as an "exploit", that makes it sound like we want the devs to fix it. Remember how bad TEC colonize was before? 8C

Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top

True, but I don't think it should be labeled as an "exploit", that makes it sound like we want the devs to fix it. Remember how bad TEC colonize was before?

I think we have established that it isn't an exploit.

Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top

Seems rather extreme to try and save a few resources. Especially considering you can just go kill a few militia to level up the Akkan and use rank 2 Colonize.

Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting kryo, reply 10
Seems rather extreme to try and save a few resources. Especially considering you can just go kill a few militia to level up the Akkan and use rank 2 Colonize.

 

 

how about fixing the colony ability of the vas eggy? Totally sucks.  Maybe it should be 60 secs but 100% increase build rate and then 200% then 300%

Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top

Seems rather extreme to try and save a few resources.

I'm an extreme kind of guy!

Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top

It's really only worth attempting on your 1st 2-3 planets.  After that you're talking resources equal to maybe 2 light frigates that you'll be getting within a few seconds anyway.  (Assuming you fully research infrastructure on those planets for max creds.  Why wouldn't you?)

Reply #14 from Sins Forums Top

Theoretically this is an exploit - it allows you to avoid building the other extractors - but a very bad one.  Kind of like being able to shoot yourself in the foot in a FPS; you shouldn't be able to do it, but doing it is REALLY pointless anyway. 

 

Wouldn't worry about it.  Thanks for mentioning it though (even though we know why it was never mentioned before!).