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Protip: Communism wins. Soon

Protip: Communism wins. Soon

Honestly, would you fuck with this?

Honestly, would you fuck with this?

 

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Reply #76 Top

(serious mode on)

The irony is that China is all about capitalism, although filtered trough the hard knit control of the state.

(serious mode off)

Reply #77 Top

Quoting Star, reply 24
But seriously: What all of you obviously fail to see is that China doesn't need to wage a war of troups and guns on anyone.

How is it that i or anyone else can't perceive any military forces as potential for offensive against any countries, be it from the Chinese or not?

I'll match a few of their tricky cyber attacks with plenty more counter reactions that simply swooped over the whole of Shangai electrical supply grid enough for five looooooonnng seconds worth of blackouts -- and, by the time they could solve the issue, it was already too late. Remember Toronto (etc, btw) as wired with the Michigan wreck which caused chaos for an entire day of purely accidental collapse?

They're as weak or vulnerable as everybody. Yuans & Euros & Dollars & Dinars included.

Money can't buy solid infrastructures, cuz none last anymore or stay beyond whatever foreign developments occuring simultaneously. Look over your shoulders, you may think you are ahead but it will be kept for less than four seconds if at all.

We nationalized Electricity in Québec for reasons; one of which to unplug hackers when necessary. Should have seen the UQAM boy under arrest this morning. Caught within days i might add.

Reply #78 Top

Quoting JuleTron, reply 18
During WWII.

During Vietnam people HATED the war. People hate this current war as well, but not so much. These days, people are less easily sucked in by war propoganda. War is unpopular.

Everyone thought that WWI was going to be a picnic. In a new major war, many Americans would question the purpose of the war. If they hated it enough, then they would elect someone else during the election.

The American people question their government more then say, Russia. They may support the war initially, but they would likely protest as the war draws out. This applies to the West in general though.


We may win the war but there is no wa ywe would even attempt and occupation.
There's been a lot of posts in this thread that annoyed me - mostly because much like Liberty Prime, I consider Communism the very definition of failure. But even deliberate trolling attempts fail to annoy me as much as the complete ignorance of the belief in the status quo.

Public opinion is fickle to the extremes. Over the course of just 10 short years, public climate can change completely and people just forget or ignore whatever position they held yesteryear. There's nothing specificly preventing the U.S. population from becoming even more of drooling sheeple than they already are.

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Public opinion or socio-political 'waves' is no linear development or actual science. You can't compare any future war to that of the Vietnam war just because it was later than WW1. Especially if there's a direct threat to the nation people identifies with and especially if, as a change of pace, the other nation is the immediate aggressor.

If there's a direct threat to organized resistance of the U.S. on American soil, it's the real or percieved complete balkanization of your nation.

Not saying that it wouldn't be interesting to see actual warfare carried out in modern urban areas.

Edit: Not that I'd call China a 'good' communist state. I actually kinda like them. But don't tell anyone.

Reply #80 Top

Public opinion is fickle to the extremes. Over the course of just 10 short years, public climate can change completely and people just forget or ignore whatever position they held yesteryear

I agree.

However, the reason Vietnam was different to WWI was because of communication, not just social changes. People saw civilians burning on TV. During WWI people had no reason to doubt that the war was going to be a picnic.

Due to the internet people are much more skeptical now. There is always another opinion. If TV was full of pro-war propoganda, internet sites would show theopposite view of the war. People don't have a common opinion now on anything let alone war.

 

 

Reply #81 Top

From this video it seems like everyone in China is the same hieght. I call CGI. We all know how much China loves special effects.

Reply #82 Top

Quoting Star, reply 24
America is unlikely to use nukes ever again. Nukes have a terrible reputation. If the President used nukes in war, he is sure to lose the next election. The American people would be outraged.
Well, at least the democratic part of the population would. The Republicans... that's another pair of shoes...

Spoiler: A democrat signed off on dropping *both* of the atomic bombs used on civilian targets to date. kthxbye.

 

-Gonzo

Reply #83 Top

The United States have better things to do then teaching their troops how to look pretty while marching and training...you know stuff like developing and training on technology that is decades ahead than what other countries around this world has.

Reply #84 Top

Quoting Electrasol, reply 8
you know stuff like developing and training on technology that is decades ahead than what other countries around this world has.

Decades? Ahead?

I think you're watching too much Hollywood movies. Last who tried world domination by propaganda failed miserably... in Europe.

Reality check, Mazda & Samsung (etc, btw) are getting ready to crush a few primitive industries still tooooo dependant on HUGE foreign supply of the most basic forms of energy; oil, coal & uranium.

But, that the US can also steal or take over, right?

Boeing-Airbus, Venezuela-Japan -- all the same to me.

You don't have better science or research potential than anyone else since you're technologically equal to whatever education system sold to population. Thing is, a vast majority can't afford it too busy that they are changing flat tires while in traffic jams under smog as far as the eye can see.

You said it, there are other countries - plenty.