Why PC Gaming is Dying

And How To Save It

Many people say that PC gaming is dying, and I agree with them entirely. From a commercial sense. The independent gaming community for PC is better than ever. The reason that PC gaming is dying is because of system requirements. You do not need to run a FPS at 90 frames per second with bloom, soft shadows, real-time lighting, next-generation physics, and advanced reflection to make it look good. See Tremulous. 700 MHz, low requirements in graphics, and various other nice stats. It looks nicer than Guitar Hero 3 in my opinion, which requires 2.4 GHz (2400 MHz) and fairly expensive graphics cards. You end up with a cartoony, ugly end-result that can be emulated with the same degree of satisfaction on really low-end obsolete machines (124 kb, and not demo scene ultra-compact, either), with the same gameplay. Audiosurf runs way more stuff than Guitar Hero, and runs on a 1.81 GHz GeForce 6150 Go laptop. Seriously, there is no need for the ultra-high requirements, since the real hardcore gaming community will play anything fun, regardless of graphics. I've played games with 3 poly models, and enjoyed them more than Guitar Hero 3 (Xbox 360). There is no need for your 200,000x 200,000 pixel textures or 80,000 poly models. It really doesn't matter. 

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Not so much dying as shifting from a "commercial behemoth" model to an "indie gaming" model, which frankly results in better games anyway. And yes, system requirements for the big commercial releases have become so ridiculous I've long since started only buying them several years after their release.
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Two words: ITS NOT :)
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I heard that the reason most new computer games require the latest and greatest computer specs is because the market of people purchasing new computers (who in turn purchase the latest games to go with those computers) is greater than the market of those who stubbornly hold onto to their old computers for years.

Money talks. If we all agreed to never, ever buy new computers, games would be made to work on our old computers. However, I think it is good that we continue to push the boundaries of video game technology further and further. Has improved technology in video games translated into improved technology in other area such as in medicine, communications, etc.? I am willing to bet that it has.

Also, how many of us have bought computer upgrades or brand new computers just to be able to play some of the latest and greatest computer games? I know I have before. So, by releasing system intensive games, gamers help out the computer market too!
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I heard that the reason most new computer games require the latest and greatest computer specs is because the market of people purchasing new computers (who in turn purchase the latest games to go with those computers) is greater than the market of those who stubbornly hold onto to their old computers for years.


This is not remotely true, at least not according to the white paper I've read on the topic.

The number of "new" top of the line computers in use is somewhere between 5 and 10 million. The number of "old" or "average" or "non-gaming" computers in use is between 300 million and 500 million.

Everyone plays games.

The problem is the gaming magazines and developers mostly use the newer, gaming computers. And they want to be rock stars. Read:
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Just the first post for Draginol's take on exactly this situation.

~ Wyndstar
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Also, how many of us have bought computer upgrades or brand new computers just to be able to play some of the latest and greatest computer games? I know I have before. So, by releasing system intensive games, gamers help out the computer market too!


I just wanted to raise my hand on this. I bought a new computer just to play Quake 1 since my 486SX didn't have a FPU.

Other than that, I can't think of any computer purchases/hardware purchases that revolved around one game in particular. I may have realized that the next generation of games would require something better and thusly got a new one...but Quake 1 was the only one that had forced my hand by itself.

~takes his teeth out and shakes his cane at whipper snappers in his yard~
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My mom bought her last computer out of sysreq frustration with some Sims thing or other. All she got was a different set of problems.

I vote to slow the whole cycle down by at least 50%. Give the devs and engineers time to clean up after the managers and marketers, then put stuff on the market.
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The problem is the gaming magazines and developers mostly use the newer, gaming computers. And they want to be rock stars.


The gaming press is a problem, generally. They're a very specific kind of gamer: hardcore, with a large base of friends to play MP (and virtually no schedule problems), a large amount of time to play games, high end hardware, and they've played virtually everything (so what may seem new to me may be old hat to them). All these factors distort their reviews relative to gamers that don't fit those categories, which I think its safe to say is most of us.
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I care little for graphics either, gameplay, plot and AI is everything. Graphics are nice, but not important, and with some of the newer games can actually pose a problem to new relatively expensive computers, so they actually become something negative.
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I would say the people playing the PC games are changing. I still
have my first PC and the games I played them on. It's a Tandy
1000EX with a windows 1.0 ... It's old and still works too.

The only PC game that required me to upgrade was iDs Quake ..
I upgraded to a faster Intel processor and a 3DFX 3d graphics
card.

Right now ... I prefer RTS games over FPS ... My other bad habit
is upgrading my PC ... New graphics cards ... CPUs .. more memory
an stuff like that ...

Right now ... I'm in the process getting the parts for a new system
together ...

PC games are getting more complex and require better hardware, but
the tools that help design games need to improve too.
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It's not dying.... really.

Digital distribution is bigger now than it ever was and will continue to grow. When you see alot of those cries that PC gaming is dying they are not taking this into account.

It is changing, and I dont think for the worse to be honest...

The system requirements thing and piracy contributes but creative developers can get around this..
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I don't feel it is dying, just being remade. The choice of words in the title is to bring people in.

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It's only dying if you only count boxes sold in Gamestop. If you add in download sales and MMO subscriptions, the picture changes a lot.
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MMO's I don't consider PC games. I consider them virtual crack. Download sales, though, are not something I can check often.

I believe that only the open-source/freeware and indie communities really have any luck in the PC market anymore, especially now that people have such a range of machines.

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Many people say that PC gaming is dying, and I agree with them entirely. From a commercial sense. The independent gaming community for PC is better than ever.


Why is StarDock, for example "indie" rather than "commercial"? Because they don't produce several games a year? Well, neither does Valve or Blizzard; does that make them "indie"?

Unless you're talking about non-profit gaming, it's hard to draw a real demarcation line between "indie" developers who get paid and "commercial" developers who get paid. They're all getting paid from us, the gamer.

What's happening in the PC industry is that many of the high-end PC game developers are trying to be console developers. Console games have bigger budgets, greater requirements with regard to craftsmanship (GC2's incessant UI oddities would not be acceptable on a console, for example. Console gamers are a lot less willing to slog through nonsense to play games), and so forth. So the greater expense of console games is brought to PC games. What isn't brought are the things that PC gamers need: a mouse-driven UI, typical PC game graphical features, etc.

And then there's World of Warcraft. MMOs in general, but especially WoW. For a gamer who has maybe 25 hours a month to devote to gaming, paying $15 a month for all of that time doesn't sound like that bad of a deal. After all, most $50 games don't last 25 hours, and only a very few last a comparable 67 hours. Well, that's 25 gamer-hours that are not going to be spent on other games. In many ways, the time-hogginess of MMOs is what makes them detrimental to other kinds of games. It's really the kind of game that you can (theoretically) play forever.

What is really happening is re-specialization. Once upon a time, there were console developers and PC developers, and they really had little to do with one another. PC games were made by PC developers and console games were made by console developers. However, as console's progressed in hardware, they became capable of playing games that were formerly only doable on PCs. FPSs, for example. So many PC developers had good reason to jump ship onto the larger console market. That leaves room for new PC developers (StarDock, et. al) to appear and make their mark on the now smaller PC games industry.

Look at the most successful PC developers: Valve and Blizzard. What do they have in common? A complete, uncompromising focus on the needs of PC gamers. And one of the biggest needs is to be able to run the games that they play. HL2 can be run on almost anything, as can WoW, WC3, and anything else Blizzard makes. Expect StarCraft 2 to be able to run on anything made in the last 3 years. Also, see below.

I heard that the reason most new computer games require the latest and greatest computer specs is because the market of people purchasing new computers (who in turn purchase the latest games to go with those computers) is greater than the market of those who stubbornly hold onto to their old computers for years.


That logic fails: see Crysis's (and for that matter UT3's) abysmal sales.

The reason it fails is because new computers are not necessarily game-quality computers. Most new computers have on-motherboard GPUs if they have one at all. The few that do have real GPUs with real videomemory couldn't even begin to run Crysis. And they make UT3 run at fairly low settings; certainly not the way it was meant to be played.

Most hardcore gamers build their own boxes, because that's usually the cheapest way to get the high-end equipment of the kind that they want/need.

History shows that the most successful PC games are patently not the games you have to upgrade to play.

All these factors distort their reviews relative to gamers that don't fit those categories, which I think its safe to say is most of us.


Nonsense.

If someone makes game X, you should judge the game based on it being game X, not being game X/2 because you have crappy hardware/unwillingness to play multiplayer/etc. They should judge the game as the designers intended it to be played, not as someone might be playing it.

If anything is wrong with the gaming medium, it's the reviews very rarely ever describe the game reasonably objectively. I've yet to read a review that actually says what Sins of a Solar Empire is actually like, for example. At best, you get a sentence or two that tries to describe it as XMeetsY, which is patently unhelpful. Of course, in the SoaSE case, the developers don't bother to even try to explain what the game is like, so I guess you can't blame the media for that one.

I don't feel it is dying, just being remade. The choice of words in the title is to bring people in.


So, you decided to lie in your title just to attract attention.

That, sir, is despicable.
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Well, in a conventional sense, it is dying. None of the major publishers and developers will survive. Who I believe will survive are those who are not tied into the stone rock foundations. In a sense, it is dying, just being replaced. That said, I don't feel it is dying. What I feel is not what is true, always. I know it is dying, due to a sad realization that people prefer playing on a console where they can get the game and play in an hour over a three-hour+ process. Also, the dearth of decent commercial games leads to the market for low-power-users drying up quickly, as Indie games often require time to scout out and find.

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Quoting Stanley, reply 4

Also, how many of us have bought computer upgrades or brand new computers just to be able to play some of the latest and greatest computer games? I know I have before. So, by releasing system intensive games, gamers help out the computer market too!

Yeah, but must we pay for progress? Why not build off of the existing framework. I've seen awesome Q3 (Tremulous) and Q2 (Paintball 2) games in the open source that have unique twists and provide an engaging experience.

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None of the major publishers and developers will survive.


Nonsense. So long as there are computers, people will play games on them. And so long as Valve and Blizzard make great games, people will play them.
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Yeah, but there are always alternatives, and there's more or less at least one for every commercial game out there.

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People who say PC Gaming is dying should stop focusing on b&m sales and try looking at online transactions.
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The hardware requirements are a symptom, not the cause. The cause is that people are stupid and/or lazy. If they had the IQ to find out what the best price/performance computerparts are (which is very easy, just go to your local hardwaresite and see what the sites staff recommends) and either learned to puzzle the computerparts together or asked someone that know how to do it then they will get monsterperformance cheap!

Somebody said that the hardcore gamers bild their own rigs <-- duh! But anybody can do that. Those that buy OEM stuff (prebuilt computers) are either dumb or lazy or both.

I see this in one of my childhood friends even! Always had consoles and he's too dumb to handle computers skillfully (can't even get internet working with WinXP! Vista did it automatically and now he's spoiled....). Also gave the lamest excuse to as why he didn't get a gaming computer...."uuuuhh my girlfriend will say I play too much then" <-- But having a Wii and a 360 (and now a Wii & PS3) that you play on every chance you get will make her stay??) She left him btw....(said it's because of other reasons but I know it isn't so).

So the reason for the decline of PCgaming is that people are dumb and/or lazy.
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50962

Do people need to spell it out for you guys?
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Edit to reply #21

The edit function doesn't work if someone replies after you so I have to do the edit here. Stupid forumsystem....

Replace "stupid" with "dumb or ignorant" (yes, both words).

Note: I assume that "ignorant" means "unknowledgeable".
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    I would count download statistics in my count, but I can't find any. Also, box statistics are truly saddening. So I go off of what I have. Fewer games are being made in the market. Fewer people are able to buy $500+ systems to play what they can on a lower-cost system. My laptop cost almost two grand one-and-a-half years ago and now can run less than one fifth of newly released commercial games.

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If they had the IQ to find out what the best price/performance computerparts are (which is very easy, just go to your local hardwaresite and see what the sites staff recommends) and either learned to puzzle the computerparts together or asked someone that know how to do it then they will get monsterperformance cheap!


This is the problem with the Hardcore. They don't understand this one simple fact:

People don't want to be bothered.

People who can't program their VCRs aren't stupid; they simply cannot be bothered to learn how. They have more important things going on than reading a manual and poking at some vaguely clear instructions until they riddle everything out. People who don't know much about their computers aren't stupid; they simply don't care. They know enough to do the things they need to, and that's sufficient. They have more important things to do than to explore the capabilities of a box.

Why should computer game developers force people to care about things that they really don't want to care about just to play their games? I mean, is Crysis really worth the effort? Seriously, is Crysis worth learning about all kinds of trivial minutae that has no other bearing on their lives? For most people, they just flip Crysis the bird and move on.

The primary reason console games sell more than most PC games is this fact: they just work. Most reward for the least effort. Crashing is utterly unacceptable to most people who might enjoy gaming. Having a game not work due to drivers is unacceptable to most people who might enjoy gaming. They don't care that it isn't the developer's fault; the fact is that the game isn't working. And for them, no game is worth the effort of poking at stuff that they barely comprehend. Downloading a patch or new drivers isn't worth the effort; if the game isn't going to work with what they've got, then the game is broken just as sure as a microwave that doesn't cook food is broken.

PC games have come a long way in this regard; look at the horrific history of having to edit autoexec.bat to free up memory, etc. But the simple fact is that there are plenty of people who might enjoy PC gaming who simply will not put up with the needless crap that you have to go through to make the game work.
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