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Culture C*ckbl*ck

Culture C*ckbl*ck

Pardon the blue language in the subject header, but I couldn't resist. It's what was going through my mind the entire time as I gnashed my teeth and shook my fists. My sad tale is as follows.

In a 2v2 game with locked teams, I had a single system as the bottleneck between my side and the enemy side. My teammate and I couldn't really coordinate who got which system, what with him being an AI, and he managed to beat me to the bottleneck system. No big deal, even if he was utterly retarded in building up its defenses. I just parked my fleet there to keep the other guys from getting through. Besides, I managed to get to the juicy terran planet before he did. Ha ha!

As the game goes on, like any evil Vasari overlord, I decided it would be worth spilling a bit of culture out towards the enemy systems on the other side of the bottleneck. After all, I get a damage bonus when fighting in my own culture. Sweet. So I tear down a few installations to make room for my media hubs and I sit back and watch the colored line advance.

Except that it doesn't. Every single phase line with my teammate's planet at the other end was entirely locked to culture. And it's not that his culture was holding me back either. I later discovered that uncouth lout didn't even have any culture! In fact, after maybe a half dozen games, I don't think I've seen so much as a bump on the culture graph for AI players. Does the AI use culture? I've only recently started playing the Hard AI, so maybe their culture will kick in during other games.

At any rate, it seems that culture will not push towards a friendly player. Now I understand the potential complications, but is this intentional? Because every race should have access to Vasari sitcoms such as Everyone Loves Zablar, UnHappy Planetary Rotational Cycles, and You Will Die With My Cold Wet Tentacle Around Whatever Tube You Breathe Through. But it seems like blocking culture is going to add a clunky new dynamic to culture wars in team games.

-Tom
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Reply #26 Top

It's official: (and I'm copy and pasting this from the official Sins development source control descriptions that are forever recorded in our eternal records database)


"Culture no longer c*ckbl*cked by allied planets"


 




L - O - L
Reply #27 Top
Rofl  :LOL: And that's exactly how the patch notes should read :)
Reply #28 Top
I wish I worked at a company where I could write code comments like that.

However, so what happens now? Does culture simply not impact team planets and flow past to take over non-team planets?
Reply #29 Top
"Culture no longer c*ckbl*cked by allied planets"


Whoa, wait, what? Man, I was just kvetching. I didn't expect it to go anywhere! That settles it: I'm coming out to Vancouver to wash your cars.

-Tom
Reply #30 Top
:O, come down here too, mine needs a washing :D
Reply #31 Top

:O, come down here too, mine needs a washing



i think some other parts need the washing more. ;)
Reply #32 Top
wow linkes, you have really inspected eet's "car" havent you...
thats kindof, um... gross?
Reply #33 Top

I wish I worked at a company where I could write code comments like that.

However, so what happens now? Does culture simply not impact team planets and flow past to take over non-team planets?

We write whatever we damn well please at Ironclad HQ. Haha, its pretty loose around here :P

Your culture will spread through allied planets and raise allegiance there. This way you can have a military focussed player backed up by a rearline culture focussed player. Friendly culture will collide and affect each other like normal but because you benefit from it either way it doesn't matter (unless you intend to backstab them ofcourse, which we feel adds a very interesting dynamic to Free for All games). It took some serious mucking around but Steve (Sponge) made it work. It'll be in the day 1 bonus pack among lots of other goodies.

Whoa, wait, what? Man, I was just kvetching. I didn't expect it to go anywhere! That settles it: I'm coming out to Vancouver to wash your cars.

-Tom

If you'd been here throughout beta (tsk tsk!) you'd know everything goes somewhere. If we don't feed the mob at regular intervals they will trample us with their pink hooves (don't ask)  :) 

Reply #34 Top
is this your sneaky way of preventing pirates from playing online?
Reply #35 Top
This has to be the best post...ever! You guys need to have a seminar for how to develop games and market it to those Developers (esp. those controlled by EA/Sierra/Vivendi/etc...).

*** looks for Major Award, labels it "Fragile" (pronounced Fra - gee - lee... must be Italian! Note the movie reference HEHE), and ships it off to IC! ***
Reply #36 Top

is this your sneaky way of preventing pirates from playing online?

No, its our sneaky way of making sure the game constantly improves so you have more fun. :) Besides we are getting bored waiting for people to play online so we have to occupy our time with something don't we?

Reply #37 Top
Besides we are getting bored waiting for people to play online so we have to occupy our time with something don't we?


FIGHT ME!!!
Reply #38 Top
Your culture will spread through allied planets and raise allegiance there. This way you can have a military focussed player backed up by a rearline culture focussed player. Friendly culture will collide and affect each other like normal but because you benefit from it either way it doesn't matter (unless you intend to backstab them ofcourse, which we feel adds a very interesting dynamic to Free for All games).


Dang, Blair, that is seriously *awesome*!

So I guess you'll see the usual color-coded culture indicator moving as per the regular rules, but if it's a teammate's color, you'll get your racial culture benefit as well? Or you'll get his culture bonus? Also, does the infocard list when a ship is receiving a culture bonus? I haven't checked, but if it doesn't, I'd like to put in a request for that.

-Tom, prepping the buckets, soap, chamois, and plane ticket to Vancouver
Reply #39 Top
The cap ships all have a 'culture rate' listed on the info cards in Beta 4. Not sure about the gamma though.
Reply #40 Top
 :HOT: you devs are the best! :CONGRAT: 


If you guys come out with another game im buying it.
Reply #41 Top
"Culture no longer c*ckbl*cked by allied planets"


Whoa, wait, what? Man, I was just kvetching. I didn't expect it to go anywhere! That settles it: I'm coming out to Vancouver to wash your cars.

-Tom


Pictures, or it didn't happen. :)