Magic, Does it exist?

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Jean Eugène Robert-Houdin (1805-1871), The British performer J N Maskelyne and his partner Cooke.  Harry Houdini (real name Erich Weiss, 1874 - 1926), took his stage name from Robert-Houdin .

magicians such as James Randi, P. C. Sorcar,  Doug Henning,  David Copperfield, Lance Burton, Penn and Teller, Derren Brown and Chris Angel.

 

All these men perform the most mind altering illusions and feats of magic, that cannot be explained by science.

Now my question is, are these performers doing "TRICKS?" or are they real magicians? How can Chris Angel walk on water in front of hundreds? While he is walking on water there is a young lady swimming beneath him. Tricks? or Magic?

Your view?

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's all tricks, but because of the magician's code (or some such), it's pretty damn difficult to find out HOW these things are done.

I've seen some amazing things, but only on tv, never IRL. I find magic entertaining, but I tend to be a big skeptic.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
aw and here I thought we were going to discuss magic as in witches brew type magic! LOL

Have to agree with Texas here, it is all very clever illusion very secretive illusions.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
However ! For the kids it is real!
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I've always been a fan of Scooby-do. I like the explanation behind the illusions...
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yes, magic exists.

Just not among professional stage magicians.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yes, magic exists.

Just not among professional stage magicians.

Agreed!  It exists in the hearts and minds of little children.

These are illusionists, and great at their craft.  But it is not magic.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
#1 by Texas Wahine
Thu, August 24, 2006 3:52 PM


It's all tricks, but because of the magician's code (or some such), it's pretty damn difficult to find out HOW these things are done.

I've seen some amazing things, but only on tv, never IRL. I find magic entertaining, but I tend to be a big skeptic.


I think that's what "THEY" want us to think, that it is just tricks, because they are afraid to expose themselves, remember what people cannot understand they fear.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
#2 by jennifer1
Thu, August 24, 2006 4:01 PM


Have to agree with Texas here, it is all very clever illusion very secretive illusions.


Is it? how do you know it's not real magic?
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
5 by stutefish
Thu, August 24, 2006 4:36 PM


Yes, magic exists.

Just not among professional stage magicians.


If it does exist why not among stage performers?
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
6 by little-whip
Thu, August 24, 2006 4:36 PM


Either Simon or myself would be happy to discuss the topic with you further, either via email or phone, because I won't *even* get into it on JU. (occult means 'hidden' and many things remain so for good reason.)


sounds like a phone conversation would be the way to go.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Criss Angel is a witch! I swear...no matter how many times I watch the same tricks, I cannot figure them out...they are insane.

~Zoo
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
12 by Zoologist03
Thu, August 24, 2006 5:07 PM


Criss Angel is a witch! I swear...no matter how many times I watch the same tricks, I cannot figure them out...they are insane.

~Zoo


I would like to see someone explain his walking on water in a pool with people swimming underneath him.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

I would like to see someone explain his walking on water in a pool with people swimming underneath him.

Plexiglass.

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: ShovelheatPosted: Thursday, August 24, 2006
I've always been a fan of Scooby-do. I like the explanation behind the illusions

 

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Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Thursday, August 24, 2006
I would like to see someone explain his walking on water in a pool with people swimming underneath him.

Plexiglass.

 

don't you think the young people swimming under him would have noticed?

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

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Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

don't you think the young people swimming under him would have noticed?

WHo were those people?

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
#20 by Dr. Guy
Thu, August 24, 2006 7:45 PM


don't you think the young people swimming under him would have noticed?

WHo were those people?


they were a bunch of people using the pool doc, could have been plants but I doubt it, the age spread was to wide, kids around 10 to 12 teenagers, young people and old farts like us.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
~snif~ snif~

just checking to see if I put on deodorant this morning...







I don't know how they do what they do, but I believe they're illusionists too. That are they signed a pact with someone!
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Anything we don't understand can be labled as magic. "Ohhhh look at the magic pictures in the box.....they move." (laugh if you want, but to someone without that knowlege, it would appear to be a trick or magic) or "wow, he is walking on water..."

Therefore, if we used more than just 10% of our brain, can you imagine the magic we could do?
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Is it? how do you know it's not real magic?


We have programs in the UK that show how the tricks are done, aren't they just the bad boys in town! LOL

Magic exists in many forms but not with the magicians.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
So long as people are gullible, bloodyminded and totally unwilling to bother examining something themselves magic exists in this world. It's the inevitable biproduct of ignorance and the refusal to understand what's really going on.

It may exist but that doesn't make it real.

The stubborn belief in things that aren't real is one of the most appealing components of human nature and probably my favourite character flaw. I'd hate to live in a world where magic didn't exist; everything would be so unspeakably dull.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top

Anything we don't understand can be labled as magic. "Ohhhh look at the magic pictures in the box.....they move." (laugh if you want, but to someone without that knowlege, it would appear to be a trick or magic) or "wow, he is walking on water..."

From the 3 Tenets of Arthur C Clarke.

3 - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.