You've been blacklisted, obviously.

You haven't been censored however. You still have the ability to speak...you still have a voice...through your own blog.

If you wish to expand on your deleted comment...or even just resubmit it exactly as it was posted so that others can read your POV, you are free to do so own your own blog.

We all blog for different reasons, and not everyone is interested in "free and open discussion," hehe...as evidenced by your experience today. Blacklisting is a pretty useful tool for creating the type of environment you want on your own blog. A nice little space of the world where you get to be the boss and say what goes and what doesn't. And now you know that that particular blogger is...umm...sensitive...to...umm...whatever it was you posted, hehe.

I've never seen you be belligerent, off topic, or obscene. Haha, now I'm dying to know what you posted that was blacklist-worthy.

I don't know if I can get back to it in order to post it here... at least exactly as it was. Maybe I'll check my history pages... too funny.

Ok... couldn't get back to the page (it reloads as is now, not from my cache... grrrrrrr). Basically, I was responding to this quote from Iconoclast's article (http://iconoclast.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=88829:

Erwin: "It's according to what your heart is saying. If your heart is humble and you have the lord using a message to send along to America we need to wake up. Your heart will respond in humility saying, "Lord, whatever it takes, begin with me to do what's right. If your heart is hard, you'll turn away. I can't define what men do, I can only say what God would be honored with." He actually believes he can read God's mind.

My point was merely this... we cannot read God's mind. His thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways higher than ours. We CAN, however, know -- at least in part -- what God would be honored with. He has given us His Word that in many instances spells out what pleases Him, if we'll take the time to open it and read it. I then listed four or five verses of Scripture (I'm sure this is probably what was objected to) which clearly state what is God's will, what pleases Him, and what brings Him honor. There are many more than what I listed, but was just giving a sampling.

My post didn't even really address whether I thought the Senator was correct in his position regarding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, I simply spoke to the fact that firstly, he didn't say that he could read God's mind... and secondly, that it IS possible to know to some extent what honors God (if you're a person of faith who believes the Bible to be God's Word.) I understand that Icon obviously doesn't... many don't for that matter and I understand that. I couldn't believe it just got deleted, though. LOL.

One of the things I love about JU is that I get to come here and have open discussion with people who are coming from a different perspective than I. We won't always agree -- in fact, we will probably rarely agree -- but I enjoy musing with you all and sharing our beliefs. It's sad that some are just not grown up enough to handle someone who differs from them. Live and learn.

not everyone is interested in "free and open discussion,"

Seems that is the order of the day.

And HC, can you post what did on the other. I would be interested to see the source of the controversy.

Tried to go back and get it, but to no avail. I posted the general gist of it, minus the Scripture references. Here's what I can remember... portions of Scripture that tell us what honors God...

Hebrews 13:16
And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

Prov. 14:31
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

1 Thess. 5:16-18
Be joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.


There might have been one or two more, I can't remember... but they were only meant to serve as an example of how we CAN know what honors God, just as the Senator said.

My point was merely this... we cannot read God's mind. His thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways higher than ours. We CAN, however, know -- at least in part -- what God would be honored with. He has given us His Word that in many instances spells out what pleases Him, if we'll take the time to open it and read it. I then listed four or five verses of Scripture (I'm sure this is probably what was objected to) which clearly state what is God's will, what pleases Him, and what brings Him honor. There are many more than what I listed, but was just giving a sampling.

You said it a lot better than I did!  Given his latest crusade, I guess you harpooned the white whale!

Well said and well done.

I don't think you're obnoxious enough to blacklist, though....

Aaaaaaw... thanks! . Nice to know I'm not THAT obnoxious! Hehehe...

You were too good! And those with no arguements cannot stand that.

I don't know if I'd call it good. Maybe too "preachy". But thanks.

Ah, yeah, I saw that, and didn't notice that it had gone. This thing that makes the page skip down to the last comment caused me to miss it, I guess.

Like he said, he has blacklisted preacherman and Aeryck. I can't talk much, I've temporarily blacklisted one or both before. The difference here is you were making a point relavent to the blog, and Aeryck usually just uses other blogs as awkward segways into his own ravings...

Anyway, he's probably just lumped you in with all the other people he intolerantly writes off as meaningless. Evidently, if we all killed ourselves the world would be a better place...

It seems I may have confused this with an article about a British tv show that claims Bush said God told him to go into Iraq or whatever...my bad.

No problem

I still think the blogger in question is an intolerant bigot.

Definitely intolerant... at least from what I've seen, which granted, is not much.

The difference here is you were making a point relavent to the blog

Thank you for pointing this out.

Evidently, if we all killed ourselves the world would be a better place...

Aaaaaaaaack! Not one of those VHEM wackos...

It's strange you should be brooding on the same thing that's going on the back of my mind. I did a post recently and it was actually a philosophical question. By way of emphasizing the message I had to cite several links, two of which selectively could not be connected to my post, but were otherwise accessible via Google. http://scatter629.joeuser.com/Link Don't you think they'd make matters worse if they messed with bloggers?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean... who?

Wow HC, you blacklisted?! I'm amazed, you're a gentle giant!

I think a big part of the blacklisting was that Icon has never read her stuff (he calls HC a he), and just saw the scriptures and jumped to the (wrong) conclusion. I dont think anyone reading her would lump her with Aeryk or Preacherman. Or even Marvin Cooley.

Hey Bellisama! still creating hate and discontent huh? Gentle Giant??? Not obnoxious??? You sure have these people fooled! JK!!! !
I had to laugh at this situation tho! As your usual self that I admire so much you used scripture to back up your point of view. Well done! I agree with tyou Dr. Guy, HC does sell herself short. She is a great writer and I have read several of her writings.
Hugs H.

I agree with tyou Dr. Guy, HC does sell herself short. She is a great writer and I have read several of her writings. Hugs H.

I gather you are a fan?

Chak... thank you for this:

It's a shame that Icon deleted HC's post. Those christians who are simply trying to live ordinary humble lives of compassion and service to others, open-minded enough to be admit when they are unsure of things, but clear enough about what matters to them and navigating to a steady moral compass will never make headlines. But to suppress their voice so that only the Erwin's of this world are heard is a deliberate distortion and an argument that relies on wilful distortion is already lost.