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The Church Just Isn't Satisfied

Ah, well doesn't that suck....right....

June 23, 2005 4:37:27 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
It seems that my church just can't get enough of anything lately. And it also seems that they're pissed off at just about every member of the church. I guess when I say they, I really mean the pastor. I guess you could say he's still new to our church. It'll be about a year this comming July since he first came to our church. And personally I really don't like him. I don't know he's just really creepy. And plus you all know what they say about Catholic pastors. lol.

Anyways.....my pastor wants all members of the church to start putting in a lot more money during collection time. And most people on the average put in about $20-$40 in each Sunday. And some of the more weathy people put in more than that. Our church is small, but it is also fairly wealthy its self. But Father Pete just wants more money. He thinks that the church needs to look like some fancy shrine or something. Personally, I think our church looks nice inside and out. The people who are in charge of decorating do a really nice job to make it look really pretty inside the chruch.

We also have what's called the Bishop's Annual Appeal. It's where we donate like $300-$500 to the appeal each year. And I guess it goes to the Bishop. But again Father Pete isn't happy with the turn outs, even though some people even donated $1000. It's like he thinks we're all going to go to hell if we don't give loads of money.

I guess another thing that seems to piss Father Pete off is that the adults don't seem to give enough involvement for certain activities. For instance, VBS is supposed to be held at my church this year. But they don't know if they'll be able to have it because they don't think they have enough adult help. So Father Pete gave a boring lecture to the church saying that they'd better help. I personally don't feel like hearing him bitching because I've already sigined up to help with VBS this year. And maybe he doesn't realize that people have jobs. They just can't take off of them for a week. I don't think their boss would like it too much.

I think that maybe if he'd stop pressuring people so much the church would have a better turn out for most things. Before he came to our church things ran smoother. And I'm pretty sure it's because we weren't pressured into doing so many things. I don't know....maybe I'm wrong.

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Reply #1 June 23, 2005 6:45:08 PM
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You probably aren't. This Father Pete of yours sounds like a disagreeable guy.

We just called a new minister, but he doesn't begin his new job until July.
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Reply #2 June 24, 2005 5:50:59 AM
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God loves a CHEERFUL giver, not a harassed one. Sheesh, it's all over the Old and New Testament.

Y'all need a new priest.
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Reply #3 June 24, 2005 9:35:59 AM
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I really don't know how you do it. How you can stand a mortal man telling you give more money or burn in hell.
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Reply #4 June 24, 2005 9:43:07 AM
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Dude.....nice pastor you have there.
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Reply #5 June 24, 2005 10:32:29 AM
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My pastor personally berated me for living with my boyfriend in SEPARATE bedrooms (rent is over $800/month...we're first year teachers...you do the math). He also assumed that we're intimate, which we're not. He also personally bereated my cousin, who is getting married in Sept. She married at 16 or 17 because she was pregnant, and has gotten divorced, and is getting married again.

Whenever any of us kids in my family go to him he brings up how ANOTHER one of my cousins and her husband went to him when they were getting married and how he wouldn't marry them since they were living together and they didn't want anything to do with God. Now...I can see him not wanting to marry them because they don't want anything to do with God...but that was his chance...and probably his only chance, to win them...entice them for God, you know? And he TOTALLY blew it.

I can't wait to go home to Minnesota and show off my big freakin tattoo at church...shock and awe, right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That being said, I've also had some exceedingly awesome pastors...my youth pastor at my church at home in Minnesota was great back when I was a kid. When I was living in Fargo, ND, the pastor at the Methodist Church there was absolutely EXCELLENT, and so is the pastor we have now...actually the two we've had down here have been great, Bible-believing and teaching men, and THAT'S what I want.

Gene's right...we should be giving with grateful hearts. Some weeks I can only afford to put $5 in, and others I can afford more. I know it's not much, but it's what I can manage right now. I plan on giving more once I'm a little more financially secure.

Tell your pastor that the church isn't the building...it's the people that meet IN the building. You could be meeting in an outhouse and still be a church, you know?

Good luck, kiddo! I'll be praying for you and your pastor AND the entire congregation. It sounds like he just needs one strong man to come forward and talk to him.
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Reply #6 June 24, 2005 11:46:19 AM
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I have a different attitude towards giving. I won't give to my local church anymore because the church isn't doing its job with the money. A church should be helping out its members in hard times, and that's a cause I would give abundantly for (I can cite numerous biblical passages as regards the church's duty to the poor). When we were in our crisis last year, did we receive help from our church? Nope. Have we ever received rent help or utility help from our church when we were in a bind? Again, nope. We had to go to other sources when these forms of assistance were needed.

So, when I give, I DO give to faith based organizations. But ONLY to those organizations that are there to help out the poor in the community. When Christ was asked what the most important commandment was, after all, the second of the "big two" was "Love your neighbor as yourself" (followed with the parable of the Good Samaritan to answer the question "who is my neighbor?") How can you love your neighbor if you're watching him starve while you're piling up seconds on your dinner plate?
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