I have little to no interested in BE right now. Maybe at 75% off.
Civ 5 disappointed me as much as War of Magic did (sorry Jon but I don't blame you for it- I think much of it was outside your control) , expansions improved it less than FE/LH. Also, a ton of good games out now and upcoming.
It's just another case to me of a AAA publisher (Firaxis) getting bloated and having the quality of their games revert to average. I just think the Firaxis we all loved is dead. Hopefully I am wrong, I know Brad and others in the industry will say I'm wrong (I understand why- and I'm NOT saying Firaxis folks are bad folks/incompetent). I do intend to give them a last chance with Civ 6, they've earned enough goodwill over the years that they earned a second chance.
Yep. Civilization 5 was and is horrendous. I don't blame Jon Shafer that much for it as, as you said, I think quite a bit of it was out of his control. I think the lion's share of the blame should go to greedy 2K Games who have been nothing but bad news for Civ fans.
Firaxis has delivered two clunkers in a row. Four, if you include the two Civilization 5 expansions. People's good will is wearing thin. Even the corrupt gaming media only gave Civilization 5: Beyond Dearth an 82 on metacritic, tied with Endless Legends. User reviews have given it a 6.5 and that score has been bloated by quite a few brain dead perfect 10 scores for that rubbish.
Civ VI is their last chance. I suggest they suck up to Stardock and get that 64 bit Nitrous engine licensed, for starters. They need to take their time and do it right. The only problem is greedy 2K Games will want another cash cow and I have a feeling Civilization 5: Beyond Dearth is not going to sell as well as they expected. So they'll likely release another half baked game to mollify their shareholders. Then the franchise will be done like dinner. (a half baked dinner, that is.)