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armor effects on initiative OBSOLUTE WITH LHv0.80

uneseccary now - ignore

April 10, 2013 6:44:59 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

Might some kind and informed person please explain how the amount of armor a troop has affects the initiative of the troop. I know more armor means less initiative. But how much? How do I figure it out when designing troops? Thx

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ElanaAhova
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Reply #1 April 10, 2013 7:01:14 PM
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Until we get to v0.80 (which has the patch note 'removed encumbrance') then the key is how heavy the armour + weapon is in total. When the character or soldier goes over 40% encumbrance they get -2 initiative. When they go over 80% the get -4 initiative total.

So when you are choosing traits for troops, the traits that provide +15 weight capacity and +20 weight capacity need to be used to get to 40% encumbrance or below, or to get under 80%. If they are not making your troop cross a breakpoint, then you would be better with the +2 initiative trait.

 

Check the tooltips on the character sheet for initiative to see the penalties.

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Reply #2 April 11, 2013 10:56:18 AM
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This is one reason i always get Warhorses for my custom factions, the bazaar and the monster immune caravans are just frosting on that cake.

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ElanaAhova
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Reply #3 April 11, 2013 4:18:41 PM
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Thanx folks... now I just need to figure out how to tell the encumbrance when designing a troop - before committing to the design. War horses? Carry more weight than horse? Will explore... 40% enc = -2 init, 80% enc = -4 init, over 100% enc not allowed, item greyed out. Warhorses may carry more than +20? Cool. Thx
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Reply #4 April 11, 2013 4:51:16 PM
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some more numbers:

- base weight capacity is 30

- "weak" penalty (scout units) is -15

- strength trait adds +20 

- horse adds +20

- muscle trait adds +15 (and +1att)

- war horse (legacy of serrane) adds +40

- trog blood adds 20 weight capacity

- full leather armor (all pieces) is 15 weight

- full chain is 20 weight 

- full light plate is 30 weight

- full plate is 40 weight

- all of this is perfectly irrelevant now since 0.80 was just released and the encumbrance system is no longer in the game

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