Just played a game two days ago. Ended with a level 18, level 16, and level 10 leveled from 1-3. Both my mains had Potential II. Not sure if that will be helpful or not. 

The penalty for multiple champions in a stack was increased. That might be it.

No. But I agree it would be a good thing to add. 

This may require redesigning the entire after battle report screen. Maybe change the font color for the xp red if there are negative modifiers and green if there are positive modifiers. When you hover over it you can get a summary on xp bonuses and penalties. 

Base 10

+ mod

25% Potential

- mod

50% 2 Champions

Total: 7.5 XP

Hmm, I might have an idea now for a mod

Since you guys know me and I know you, I feel comfortable talking about this plainly: An engineering hour is about $75.  And that doesn't count opportunity cost.  That's why a lot of the requests I see on the forums are tough to come through on even though I agree with them.

For example, multiplayer.  Multiplayer is something I actually am willing to spend the $$ on but I don't have enough network developers to work on it. They're on other games that absolutely need to have MP in them.  

Since I work on our games on weekends, I can implement some ideas because I can do them myself.  But this one I couldn't because it gets into the UI area of the game.

By contrast, when I read a post on someone saying they can win with a couple tanks and archers, that's something I can address since I know how to code that part of the game.

That's why on most forums you have some suppport people who tell you things like "I've let the team know, they like the idea and will see what they can do" which is them really saying "No, we're not going to do it because there's no budget but we don't want people to think we're not listening." because most of the time, the developers agree. They just don't have the time/budget available to address it. 

What I can say is that these kinds of reports make a bigger difference for FUTURE versions of the game.  There's going to be another full Elemental game after Legendary Heroes (i.e. a non-expansion pack) and that's where this kind of thing will show up.

Yes but I would rather say it now, and fear repeating myself.
Than keep my silence and fear it will never be implemented, even in the future.
I did figure it to be a project with a little time behind it
(Don't think it would take ALL too long though, but whatever, all I wanted was the XP to count upwards, and then a number come up when there was an XP penalty)
I do know from experience that not all suggestions are implemented no matter how much heart you put into typing out the details. (Which is why I usually rarely go into details before asked)

~ K

I don't think you can mod the multi-heroes penalty to xp

~ K

And what precisely are the multi-hero XP penalties ?

Base XP is based on how many champions (henchmen, sions etc. don't count) there are in a winning battle.  One champion gives full experience.  Each additional champions reduces the amount of base experience.

Henchmen, Sions etc get champion XP, but they don't count as champions for XP splitting purposes.

Trained units/monsters that are not Henchmen or Sions get a percentage of the base XP.  So the more champions there are, the less the other troops get too because the base XP is already reduced, and other troops only get a fraction of base XP.

Not quite sure if defeated heroes get any experience (I don't think they do) and if the amount of champions at the start of a battle affects the XP received when winning, even if some champions get reduced to 0 HP in the interim.

I think when trained troops or henchmen/sions are in a battle without any proper champions, they get XP as if one champion was there (so henchmen/sions get full base XP, other troops get the fraction of full base XP).

You can miss a lot of early levels by doing this. It may not seem much by looking at the number of xp points but this can be a level or 2 difference for one hero on the early mobs. Try using a explorer or make your own fodder character. Slaves with cheap weapons are best, otherwise make a basic staff unit with Toughness. 

Well, after a long game, I find that the new system requires at least a good explanation, or possibly an overhaul.

I've played a large map, more monsters than normal. I won by quest, but before I cleaned three special areas of all monsters, and I also faced a special event 'the world is becoming more dangerous', which spawned numerous nasties inside my territory. Despite having fought all of this, I ended up at barely level 15. Needless to say that in the final combat, I was more than happy to have a dragon and some top notch troops to accompany my heroes. Actually, these troops won three quarter of the fight. The heroes the last quarter...

I am unsure about my opinion on the new balance. certainly, troops become more important than heroes.

Yves