and a bit further on the deorcynsse wildlands not clearing, started a new game in 1.3beta with my usul custom sov & race on wildlands map, when I had got to the location od deorcynsse it had been captured by magna, BUT the shroud wildland had not cleared

and over 100 turns later I wnet back to check, and STILL the wildlands had not cleared, and was still in the hands of magnar

and a save for the game http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023186/fe%20crashes/flamer/13beta%20shroud%20not%20clear.EleSav
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