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[REVIEW] "Elemental: Fallen Enchantress Impressions" by "Out of Eight PC Game Review"

October 24, 2012 7:53:17 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

They do not provide a numerical score summary.  The reviewer did record a 45-minute video on Youtube, however, embedded in his article.


This is a semi-sequel offered for free to early adopters of the first Elemental game, War of Magic. It’s obviously similar in approach (a 4X game with role-playing elements) but much better overall thanks to streamlined mechanics, added content, and a more accessible interface, among other things. ...

-- http://www.outofeight.info/2012/10/elemental-fallen-enchantress-impressions.html

Here is their Youtube video (yes, it has 1080p HD):

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Reply #1 October 24, 2012 9:37:28 PM
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Notice that the first thing he mentions is not enough warning when a city is idle.

Second thing I noticed mentioned is the lacking dynamic in tactical combat.

Third thing I noticed is that he doesn't like using weapons on his heroes.

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Reply #2 October 24, 2012 9:42:30 PM
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Quoting GFireflyE,
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Notice that the first thing he mentions is not enough warning when a city is idle.

 

And I scoffed and laughed.  How could you possibly miss the blinking and fairly large ZZz on the screen?  I'd much rather have the ZZz on the left side than some obnoxious pop up that would continuously pop up for however long it may be idle.

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Reply #3 October 24, 2012 9:43:53 PM
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Quoting Wizaerd,
reply 2

Quoting GFireflyE, reply 1
Notice that the first thing he mentions is not enough warning when a city is idle.

 

And I scoffed and laughed.  How could you possibly miss the blinking and fairly large ZZz on the screen?  I'd much rather have the ZZz on the left side than some obnoxious pop up that would continuously pop up for however long it may be idle.

 

I guess you've never had enough cities for not all of your cities to fit on the screen.

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Reply #4 October 24, 2012 9:53:31 PM
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He showed up in the Paradox forums after reviewing Crusader Kings II, and instead of being hailed after revealing who he was, ended up surprised that a lot of players criticized him for getting quite a bit of information wrong.  The impression I at least was left with was that he'd played for a day or two, was a quick study, and mistook that for understanding a really deep TBS.  Make of that what you will in this context.

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Reply #5 October 24, 2012 10:24:56 PM
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I wanted to SCREAM first 15 minutes of the video YOU HAVE ZERO ATTACK - EQUIP WEAPON.  No wonder he loses. And this is guy who played beta?

But also the game somehow should notify you when you try to attack with 0 attack. Or, it simply should not let you attack, giving the only option to pass the turn for that unit.

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Reply #6 October 25, 2012 9:25:13 AM
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Quoting MxM111,
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I wanted to SCREAM first 15 minutes of the video YOU HAVE ZERO ATTACK - EQUIP WEAPON.  No wonder he loses. And this is guy who played beta?

But also the game somehow should notify you when you try to attack with 0 attack. Or, it simply should not let you attack, giving the only option to pass the turn for that unit.

Not everyone is an expert at noticing everything, be open minded...

Quoting GFireflyE,
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Notice that the first thing he mentions is not enough warning when a city is idle.

Me thinks so too, I'm blind too

This seems like one of the more interesting reviews, since you actually see a guy playing the game.

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Reply #7 October 25, 2012 9:53:33 AM
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Quoting Wizaerd,
reply 2

Quoting GFireflyE, reply 1
Notice that the first thing he mentions is not enough warning when a city is idle.

 

And I scoffed and laughed.  How could you possibly miss the blinking and fairly large ZZz on the screen? .

 

I miss it all the time. As I already wrote in one of my comments, the interface is poorly designed and non-ergonomic, because various related pieces of information are scattered to distant parts of the screen. This "warning" is a perfect example because it appears in a section that does not normally contain useful/urgent information.

Take Paradox GUI for as an example - it has a dedicated sections just for warnings, grouped by severity. It also let's you to customize the GUI, so that it can offer popup warnings for events you consider important.

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Reply #8 October 25, 2012 10:03:48 AM
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Quoting Kamamura_CZ,
reply 8
customize the GUI, so that it can offer popup warnings for events you consider important.

This would be a nice addition to FE.

Quoting Kamamura_CZ,
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As I already wrote in one of my comments, the interface is poorly designed and non-ergonomic, because various related pieces of information are scattered to distant parts of the screen.

You can drag and pull some of the objects of the interface, like the city drop down list... Just incase you want to.

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Reply #9 October 25, 2012 10:35:22 AM
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A 45-minute review?

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Reply #10 October 25, 2012 10:55:52 AM
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  • It's not a "review", it is "impressions".
  • If he's attacking with no weapon, maybe the issue is with the game not being informative enough for new players to realize how to equip a weapon.  (Paper doll would go a LONG way toward solving this and be more consistent with the RPG style of ruler/champions).
  • I finally realized that if my turn doesn't auto-advance, then a city is idle.  I never notice the stuff on the right side of the screen.
  • Maybe he doesn't give games the time some people would expect, but his reviews usually jive with my gaming experience, so I trust him.  But again, this isn't a review.
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Reply #11 October 25, 2012 6:16:38 PM
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Quoting Stuie_,
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(Paper doll would go a LONG way toward solving this and be more consistent with the RPG style of ruler/champions).

I think that would be nice too, and easier to understand.

Quoting Stuie_,
reply 11
Maybe he doesn't give games the time some people would expect, but his reviews usually jive with my gaming experience, so I trust him. But again, this isn't a review.

I personally like these video thingies more, because even if the guy is wrong about the game, I still get to learn alot about the game itself.

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Reply #12 October 26, 2012 9:13:26 AM
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Quoting Stuie_,
reply 11
It's not a "review", it is "impressions".

Yeah, but still, 45-minutes?

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