Classic, lol.

Your post is appreciated Xia, and you deserve credit for keeping a stiff upper lip, but the latest iteration (ver 1.19k), from the most recent playtesters indicates that this beta is completely unplayable. Not good. Frogboy needs to get serious about this or there won't be anyone left who cares anymore.

Elemental's already fun for me, I just need that 1.2 patch and I'll basically be set. Anything else is icing and cherries on the cake.

You are quite frankly illogical and unreasonable. The very latest patch in the beta had a bug. It will probably be fixed by tonight. Most people testing the beta have seen significant stability gains. I know I basically don't crash ever anymore. They are taking it quite seriously as is obvious to anyone actually paying attention and not randomly mouthing off like a ADHD child.

I have not lost faith in Stardock - they are still quite frank and honest, or at least they try to be, and they gave me Sins and Galciv2 to enjoy. However, I have lost faith in Elemental completely, since it is destined to remain rather bland and boring game with many strange design decisions. The hopes now lie in Fallen Enchantress, since that's the project that will attempt to create what Elemental should have been in the first place. Elemental is now a buried project in my opinion - and all the flowers, candles, soothing music and neatly dressed people won't change the fact that the persion we are talking about is dead.

1.19l was released less than 24 hours later to deal with the bug in question. It's available right now.

Anyway, regarding the topic at hand...

Thanks for your kind words.

I think the post should be called faith in War of Magic, not Elemental since eventually there will be quite a few Elemental: <Game>

Do *I* have faith in War of Magic's future? It really depends on v1.3 as that will really be the do-or die version for the game in my mind. If people hate that, it'll be time to just focus on Fallen Enchantress.  If people like the direction it takes, then it's on to v1.4 which will diverge further from FE/WOM 1.0.

I've put WOM aside until 1.3 comes out.  Got other things to play right now.

As long as either 1.3 or FE ends up being the game I expected when I paid for Elemental, I'll be satisfied.

I like this post. I was going to make some humourous (to me) remark about it, most likely involving Mel Gibson and nipple twisting, but it turns out that I agree, and think that the the quote couldn't be more appropriate. So there you go, I agree with you and Mr. Griswold completely.

I agree, I had a simular experience with Paradox's Hearts of Iron 3... There was such a mess of the original and Paradox decided to put out the expansion Semper Fi... I got it in hopes it would fix the original... I was not impressed.
I like some of paradox's games, some of them are even my favorites... but HOI3/Semper just pissed me off. Enough to be so wary of their operation, that I do not trust them to issue out a functioning game... at all... and Vicky 3 was  another example of shoddiness post-HOI3!

I'm taking a chance on this one having bought it at the half-price as it seemed to be a game I would be interested in.
I just hope you guys at Stardock aren't taking a page off Paradox, because it stopped me from purchasing any further games from them... at least until I hear if its a really well put-together game somewhere on the interwebs... with massive amounts of positive feedback.

Yes, there are a lot of games put out by Stardock that are really great, I have a lot of fun with them,... but remember it was the same with Paradox... do you really want your customer base to dilapidate into "yes-men" as the money walks away from a shoddy reputation?

So I'm going to try this game out and see how it goes, I know there is a lot of work to be done yet, so I guess I'll see where it goes from here... just dont expect me to buy an expansion if the original is still broke... ok?

The ultimate example of a Franchise where the first game was a disaster but later ones made tons of money- Street Fighter.

each to their own Raven, one persons hate is anothers love

as was stated before that SD made mistakes on EWOM and they've learned from it. Later games on the series will also take and learn from the mistakes that were made. No ones perfect... lol I better not go into that rant again like I did in the other thread defending SD lmao. Really though first game I played that was a SD product was Galciv2 and I liked that game, then out came SOSE, again I liked that game a lot and now we have EWOM which despite all it's flaws I like a lot (it reminds me too much of Civ4 FFH2 mod)

If I had the necessary credentials and schooling I'd probably be seeking a job at SD as it seems like one of those gaming companies that you really want to work for because they are all about gaming and giving customers enjoyable games to play.

I can easily say that WoM is really on the cusp of some really cool game play. In my mind, adding a happiness/rebellion mechanic and improvements outside of cities would go a very long way to making the game a lot more interesting.