What shows do you find to be better? 

Yours, maybe....ours down here can't be buggered to put in the effort to be decadent....

Worst show ever. I agree that some shows could be better, but I think you may have ridiculous standards.

Well, you see, not that I am enthusiastic about it, but SGU at least can be seen without having a sense of cognitive dissonance. You may consider it "the worst show ever", but I am not quite surprised, Infact, this is the way someone living in the contemporary dark age sees entertainment.

In SGU for example, there's unity of time and space ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_unities ), whereas both in the (monstruous, undreadable) book series and in the tv show A Game of Thrones, there is none. Fact is, that to sell more books, lately, one of the stratagems has been eliminating the concept of main character and spreading the role of protagonist between different (scarcely defined and often incoherent) characters instead. These are spread between continents, generally, too. Wheel of Time, and other examples of garbage literature, intended for a consumerist market, do it largely, because this improves the chance that the reader might identify with one or the other and so, get attached to the saga. So the audience has been educated (conditioned) not to expect unities in tales anymore.

It's also like a chinese menu or a macdonalds list: the more stuff inside dishes, the better.

In SGU there's an underlying mystery ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_wonder ) whereas in current tv shows there is none. These are more like japanese anime, in their repetitive reproposition of the mechanistic antagonist-difficulty-confrontation-victory (or defeat, in the case of pessimist plots), without there being any reason for the confrontation besides some bad guy/good guy stereotype.

In SGU characters actually have a personality. In aGoT, they just oscillate around their generic quality (this guy is very honest, the other is very rash, etc.). In Galactica they are a bunch of borderlines or even multiple personality disorders, and everyone does everything and its opposite.

So, in reality, no wonder that SGU has been cancelled. It has been cancelled because it isn't as bad as what the audience has been conditioned to expect, and like. In the age of Lost, beauty is ugliness, and vice-versa.

I would recommend Abercrombies "First Law Trilogie". Very good story and some great characters. The closest thing to Martins "Game of thrones" that comes to my mind.  I enjoyed this trilogie very much.

Nobody has to like Game of thrones. But calling it mindless stuff without plot is either only provocation or you haven´t understand anything. Sry.

Game of Thrones

This show one of my favorite show ever. Because i like in show story,star cast,character's,& show chemistry.

It's much deffer to all another shows. So mostly people like this show. 

It was on Austar (Showcase Channel I think). They finished a re-run a month or so back.

There's a Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings 2. I hear it's comprehensive and pretty good.

http://citadel.prophpbb.com/topic1282.html

If it's anything up to the quality of Crusader Kings 2, then free up a weekend or two.

Othello

Been thinking of a new series of books to get into. This just might be it since I don't have HBO.

I don't understand why so many people dislike the show. The plot is thrilling, actors are okay, and the best thing about this show is the fact that you never know what's going to happen next. Every time I tried to predict the plot I failed, and that's what I like about it. The way they kill main characters and turn the plotline the other way round is just brilliant)

I think the books as well as the TV show now, suffer from a lack of focus on the later seasons/books. 

The first book is brilliant.  It has a self contained story with different acts that progress the overall plot, each episode matters and it weaves together at an excellent pace (Dany stuff notwithstanding that so far doesn't affect the rest of the characters).

The second and third book continue the story while increasing the scope and are also excellent.

The fourth book is all over the place leaving out characters we know and care about and seem extraneous to the overall plot.

The fifth book shifts focus back towards plot critical characters but there's not a lot of resolution (there's even regression in Dany's case to a scared girl unable to make up her mind about what she should be doing).

What's missing to me is the tight focus of the first three books.  The TV series is already butting up against the edge of this.  All they can do is add the extraneous details that so far haven't paid off in order to shoot something. 

Big questions like what happens with the whitewalkers, what happens to Stannis, *Jon Snow, Dany's invasion, the Iron Throne?    As of five books these and more are all up in the air and could go any which way with no end in sight.  But we know more about Dorn, Sam, Bran & the Trees, and jugglers. 

Okay, so there was a change of heart.  I now have Foxtel through Telstra... with 6 months of free movies and drama, docos and comedy.  Now I can watch Game of Thrones. 

I got a real good deal, too... pays to be indecisive and draw the rep in.  $19.95 per month and I got the Foxtel IQ II instead of the standard box thrown in as a bonus. It has 500 gigs of storage so I can record entire series should I desire... can't wait 'til GoT starts up again.  Oooooh, and I get the Syfy channel as well... no more waiting months for new sci-fi anymore.... I'm as happy as a hog in muck.

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