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Reply #26 January 4, 2011 10:10:37 AM
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Quoting Ratatosk7,
reply 23
Also, are we really getting Jon Shafer? Does this mean squares will be replaced with hexes or that this will become Elemental:Revolution, or both?
Well, if he does join SD I'm sure he will do a fine job.  At least he won't be dealing with the likes of 2k and take-two.  I assume the failings of Civ5 are in large part due to those parasites.  I wonder what Civ5 would have been like if Firaxis had had a free hand in development.  Free from the influence of short sighted share holders.  And free from the bad management of a cheesy assed publisher.

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Reply #27 January 4, 2011 10:57:54 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I love hexes. IDK why people went back to using squares in the first place and it also eliminated Civ's stack'o'doom and/or collateral damage issue. Realistically speaking I doubt there will be any plans to rebuild the core of the game to use hexes instead of squares. Maybe in an Elemental 2.

 

Edit: although...hexes are normally for tactical games and we do happen to have this very lacking tactical combat thing floating around....might be interesting hex style...

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Reply #28 January 4, 2011 12:09:11 PM
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So when do we get the big announcement? Huh? Huh? Huh?

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Reply #29 January 4, 2011 12:22:12 PM
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Quoting Derek Paxton,
reply 16
 

  Toby and I were making fun of each other in skype today until one of the new hires laughed at both of us for all the back in forth in skype when we were sitting right beside each other at adjacent desks.

  Welcome to Stardock.

  BtW, I had a great day.  All three of the new folks are amazing, and we are lucky to have them.

Derek, quit horsing around.  I need a 1.2 Beta to start testing pronto! 

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Reply #30 January 4, 2011 12:24:14 PM
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cause hexes only give you 6 directions of movement and squares give you 8

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Reply #31 January 4, 2011 12:25:26 PM
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Derek, quit horsing around. I need a 1.2 Beta to start testing pronto!

 I agree. Proper game testing is needed, though in hindsight, it sure would have been better applied before release.

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Reply #32 January 4, 2011 12:31:00 PM
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Hexes give you six equidistant directions.  Squares give 4 if you only allow cardinal directions (most of the "Tactics" games on consoles use this convention).  Squares give 8 if you allow diagonal movement.  This introduces problems.  You need to compensate for the fact that diagonal movement is faster then (or not like Civ).

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Reply #33 January 4, 2011 12:54:47 PM
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I think hexes are better also, but Brad doesn't, and that's what counts.

 

 

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Reply #34 January 4, 2011 1:17:31 PM
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I think hexes are better also, but Brad doesn't, and that's what counts.

Squares take a round world and make it a box, ^^, while Hex's are for satan's children (no insult to any of you who are one..^^; & couldn't think of a better blurb)

 What game developers should be using for strategy games is a duel-layered octagon grid. that plays on a world map without grid lines... direction movement is based from the unit in questions current position, not a fixed world map grid reference & it would mean direction in 8 directions. Of course, this would mean a whole mass of work for developers & a whole new series of nightmares for game codeing... but it would give 4x a boost since it would eliminate the "Oh noes.... I'm trapped by thiese lines..." feeling to playeres. Of course, the last game company I suggested this too called me a quak and went on to get a restraining order against me. (I wish... lol)

 PS: Looking at a 10 by 10 wall of overlapping Octagons is bad for your mental health... feels like the Hounds of Tandalos are coming for me...

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Reply #35 January 4, 2011 1:18:39 PM
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Quoting Alstein,
reply 33
I think hexes are better also, but Brad doesn't, and that's what counts.

 

 

 

Hexes are better than squares because they are more than a quadrilateral, they are a type of SPELL.

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Reply #36 January 4, 2011 1:22:11 PM
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Hmmmm Jon Shafer does seem to know Brad... soooo.... http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/civilizationv/222/interview.html Would it be true? That'd be awesome!

Also his Twitter from 31st dec points into an annoucement soon; this is soon in my book...

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Reply #37 January 4, 2011 1:29:24 PM
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There was collaboration between SD and Firaxis back in the Civ 4/GC 2 days.  It could be from that time.

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Reply #38 January 4, 2011 1:54:16 PM
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i too am waiting for the big announcement so i know what to rant about next.

good choice of spell winner though; i just hope some more get in: it's not as if we've got too many spells.

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Reply #39 January 4, 2011 2:16:00 PM
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The big announcement was the announcement about the forth coming big announcement.

 

Why don't you people get it?

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Reply #40 January 4, 2011 2:33:21 PM
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Quoting davidjc_af,
reply 39
The big announcement was the announcement about the forth coming big announcement.
Announcement or it didn't happen.

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Reply #41 January 4, 2011 2:52:55 PM
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Quoting Diardiamond,
reply 34

I think hexes are better also, but Brad doesn't, and that's what counts.
Squares take a round world and make it a box, ^^, while Hex's are for satan's children (no insult to any of you who are one..^^; & couldn't think of a better blurb)

 What game developers should be using for strategy games is a duel-layered octagon grid. that plays on a world map without grid lines... direction movement is based from the unit in questions current position, not a fixed world map grid reference & it would mean direction in 8 directions. Of course, this would mean a whole mass of work for developers & a whole new series of nightmares for game codeing... but it would give 4x a boost since it would eliminate the "Oh noes.... I'm trapped by thiese lines..." feeling to playeres. Of course, the last game company I suggested this too called me a quak and went on to get a restraining order against me. (I wish... lol)

 PS: Looking at a 10 by 10 wall of overlapping Octagons is bad for your mental health... feels like the Hounds of Tandalos are coming for me...

Isn't that the same as a square grid with diagonal movement allowed? Either way you're on a.. let's call it a tile, and you can move in eight directions, each of which takes you to a new tile with eight paths leading from it. I don't think it matters whether you represent this 'tile' with a square or an octagon or hide it from the player entirely, either way it's essentially just a point that's symmetrically connected to other surrounding points, the key is how many connections you make (4, 6, 8, etc). Maybe I'm misunderstanding though, would love a more detailed explanation if so.

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Reply #42 January 4, 2011 2:52:59 PM
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Hmm you can tell your getting old when you get more excited over a potential forum announcement than you did on christmas eve. Ergh... Frogboy is like my new Santa.

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Reply #43 January 4, 2011 3:04:25 PM
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C'mon C'mon when do we find out who the new bloods are???     We've been waiting for weeks!  

Kael confirmed that three new hires were on the clock yesterday.  So tell us already!!! Please!

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Reply #44 January 4, 2011 3:10:22 PM
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Quoting Frogboy,
reply 11
They're coming.  Today was 10 hours of planning meetings.

Frankly, I'm surprised some people haven't figured out at least one of the announcements.
In all honesty, I'm pretty sure I have indeed figured out one of the announcements. But it would be rude to go telling people my guesses when there's about to be an official announcement anyway.

And I haven't figured out all of the announcements.

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Reply #45 January 4, 2011 3:10:34 PM
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'The beatings will continue until morale improves'.

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Reply #46 January 4, 2011 3:16:05 PM
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Quoting Winnihym,
reply 13
*gasp*  Lord Xia is the lovechild of Wintersong and Heavenfall!  I KNEW it!

 

All true.

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Reply #47 January 4, 2011 3:38:25 PM
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My guess is this announcement: "We're making an announcement in 2 weeks after the BCS is over.  "

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Reply #48 January 4, 2011 3:59:58 PM
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Well, why dont we use "distance" instead of square and hexe? A perimeter around your character should delimited your zone of mouvement, or use a number of "footstep" to go around if you dont want to go linear. I dont know if I'm clear to you because in my head it's perfectly clear

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Reply #49 January 4, 2011 4:00:24 PM
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Quoting Trojasmic,
reply 12
You mean the one about Heavenfall joining Stardock?  I figured that one out a long time ago.  Or do you mean the one about Jon Shafer (ex-Firaxis) joining Stardock?  Those are my two guesses.

I can confirm that I am not joining Stardock. And if there is a Heavenfall joining SD, it won't be me.

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Reply #50 January 4, 2011 4:21:27 PM
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.. so when are we going to know who the new three guys are? I wanna know! Please!

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