Happy Thanksgiving! » Forum Post by Frogboy

And I would point out that we have actually celebrate this event as some sort of romanticized lesson of generousity.

FYI the Native Americans lost miserably in my Elemental simulation just like in RL.

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/whitemaleguilt Happy (slightly belated) Thanksgiving everybody and thank you to Stardock for sticking with the game.

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What's really interesting in the context of this discussion - or at least what this discussion has become - is this: Do we as a modern society/modern day caucasians need to assume guilt for something that our ancestors did over a hundred years ago?

I don't think so. This notion of inherited guilt really leaves a bad taste in my mouth - and I really think it has no place.

Now to turn the discussion back on track with the most important question: How do you cook a turkey to perfection, so that it won't be as dry as desert sand?

Morten

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Quoting Asmodean_dk,

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What's really interesting in the context of this discussion - or at least what this discussion has become - is this: Do we as a modern society/modern day caucasians need to assume guilt for something that our ancestors did over a hundred years ago?

Using the ancestors' "deeds" is good ammunition to insult people. Do you expect people to surrender that?

You should fear me because I killed thousands of native americans (mayans and such), plundered their lands, destroyed their cultures... Hell, reminds me of that Buffy The Slayer episode with the "native american" ghost/spirit. Go Spike!

That said, if someone were to start the Oilgiving after Irak thingy, that would raise eyebrows with good reason.

The only real responsability we have toward those actions by our ancestors are that if they were bad, we don't repeat them. Expecting too much from mankind though. I mean, someone from my country just claimed legally the Sun as her property, so how more stupid can we be?

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Quoting Istari,

reply 15

Quoting goodgimp, reply 14Because turkeys carry tiny bits of Jesus in their waddles, each and every one.
Goodgimp, your avatar freaks me out, and that makes everything you say roughly 25% weirder and scarier than it normally would be.

Looks like Buddha crossed with Teal'c to me.

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Likewise--hope the day was great for all. Keep up the great work Stardock.

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Quoting Asmodean_dk,

reply 28

What's really interesting in the context of this discussion - or at least what this discussion has become - is this: Do we as a modern society/modern day caucasians need to assume guilt for something that our ancestors did over a hundred years ago?

I don't think so. This notion of inherited guilt really leaves a bad taste in my mouth - and I really think it has no place.

Now to turn the discussion back on track with the most important question: How do you cook a turkey to perfection, so that it won't be as dry as desert sand?

Morten

2 ways using an oven. Low and slow - 325* for 20-25 mins a pound, cover with foil and baste it every 30 mins or so (works great with lean/organic birds) Make and cook stuffing separately. just split up a few onions and some garlic inside the bird. Or split the bird down the middle, put it in baking pan, rub some butter on it, and herbs you like the smell of, cook at 350 with some foil. (will cook faster and still be yummie)

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Quoting Asmodean_dk,

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Now to turn the discussion back on track with the most important question: How do you cook a turkey to perfection, so that it won't be as dry as desert sand?

There are two methods to obtaining perfect, juicy turkey...

1) Deep fry the sucker until it's cooked.

2) Typically, the Saturday or Sunday before the holiday... buy frozen hard as a rock turkey and a large marinade bag that will cover said turkey... open frozen solid turkey into marinade bag... and make some marinade... I usually find terriyaki sauce to be good... but there's plenty of recipes you can use!! Go wild!! Now, place contents of marinade bag in fridge... rotate once per day or so until it's turkey day... ok, now that is' defroseted, and well marinated... empty into turkey roasting pan... stuff your bird with whatever you like, rice or bread stuffing is traditional... now cover the roasting pan with aluminum foil or a LID... baste about once every 30 minutes with the juices... using a MEAT THERMOMETER... once your bird is about 120 degrees fahrenheit in the center, Uncover bird, continue basting every 30 minutes... once your bird is EXACTLY 160 in the center... PULL it from the oven!! Most people make the mistake and over-cook the bird!! Basting keeps it from drying out... and 160 is the optimum temperature for poultry!! Done!

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Happy belated Thanksgiving Stardockians.

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Quoting wraithstalke,

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Quoting Istari, reply 15
Quoting goodgimp, reply 14Because turkeys carry tiny bits of Jesus in their waddles, each and every one.
Goodgimp, your avatar freaks me out, and that makes everything you say roughly 25% weirder and scarier than it normally would be.

Looks like Buddha crossed with Teal'c to me.

Mix in some Android 19 from Dragonball Z and I think you have a match.

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