I also did a marathon game this weekend, and I'm to turn 350ish & i've killed 4 or 5 AIs in war. I just finished knocking out Gilder who had 12 to 15 cities, Gilder was pushover compared to what Yithril is normally like.

Funny thing is, I had just the opposite. My soverign married that Red Headed adventurer I found near the start of the game; I think here name was Najjeba or something like that. There were 3 children, two female one male. I noticed farily outrageous mana: one has 200 something mana ability. Funny thing is, all the females have "tight boots" and were limited to 1mp, and when I went to the item shop travelling boots were not offered as a buy option?? One of them had a very unreasonable (low) combat speed, I spent the first three experience improvements raising her combat speed (I think she was the one with the outrageous mana).

I almost never risk champions in direct melee combat as they always tend to die, so I can't say they have the wierd counterattack ability you describe. I also have three second-generation kids, but apparently they're still babies as their gif shows up as babies in cribs.

One odd thing I noticed was that after I named the first kid, I had two suddenly show up with the same name? For some reason, the mana regeneration of one was locked to zero when stacked with the other. At first I thought they were twins or something, but later I figured out this could only be a bug. When I moved the two away from each other, they both regenerated mana normally, but when stacked, one would not have mana regeneration (the other didn't) and the other would reset mana to zero automatically, odd.

Sounds like the 'twins' really don't like one another.  When you put them together, they spend all their 'free' time caasting annoying spells at each other.. and have no mana left for RL. (LOL, just a fun back story...)

In my game, my sovereign never even had any kids, yet I met 3 ladies with icons "the baby picture" and they had already been imbued. Weird stuff. One of them had 1 base move, the others were normal.

I've seen the mana reset to zero thing happen a few times.  I had a game where my soverign had all boys and I married them all off and got whole slews of babies.  The mana going to zero thing seems to happen when family is in the same tactical battle.  At least one caster who was spawned by my line always had a reset to zero, but the wives from other factions and imbued heros didn't do it.  I haven't observed the reset to zero happen in automatic battles though.

About the baby champions (ones that have baby card pics), they are actually clones of children who have yet come of age, they always have your spouse's name. Once the actual children come of age, the baby card changes to reflect the new card that gets created. No idea what happens when you don't have a spouse (I usually have one by then) or the real children don't get to grow up (faction killed).

Also about abilities, it seems all children has random abilities, but are unlisted because they just get their parent's (of same gender) description and skill list. Only way to tell what they have is to try them out in combat.

Overall, there are definitely some oddities with the dynasty system. I've been saying it for a while now, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of this is what ends up causing crash errors.

You should report this as a bug in the support forum.

Hi,

Thanks for the reports on dynasty kids.  Moves are getting a bonus that they really shouldn't be getting during stat randomization, and it's now been fixed internally.  Also, there has been a major nerf on the essence a kid inherits from their parents... I thought that it made it in to 1.08, but mana of 1800 or even 800 should not be possible with that. 

If you have a save that has champions that have baby pictures (or anyone else, for that matter), could you post that up here?  It sounds like perhaps too many unit types are being considered as NPC candidates when spawning new ones, but I'd like to make sure there isn't another issue.  Thanks.

I think you are right, someone here just brought up that they were getting these crazy mana values, too, but looking at the stat breakdowns noticed that it was because of the dozens of temples of essence they had built/captured.  Actually, 30 base essence is probably too high as well, unless the kid was born after you had leveled up your sovereign/spouse a lot, so it's possible the kids are still double-dipping on bonuses from the parents before they are born, which is something I'll mercilessly get rid of, just like the moves bonus .

Please make all the "special"traits accurately listed in the unit cards. Also it would be nice that boys and girls had some chance to inherit the traits of the dad OR mother. It sucks because I can marry a special champion with a special ability and it only gets inherited down the same gender line. Really sucks.

Also please look at the disparity between Sovs and their children with regen, it sucks because your kids make your Sov obsolete even though you invested a lot of time into him/her. That regen makes all other champs and even your Sov suck by comparison.

The special abilities that dynasty kids inherit from their parents appear to be listed correctly in the lorebook details for the kids, and listed in the same way they are for other units in their info card.  If you have a save where a kid doesn't show any evidence of having gotten the ability bonuses from their same-sex parent, could you post it?

Thanks for mentioning health regen, this was also getting a bonus it should not have been getting, like the moves stat that prompted this thread.  In fact, the counterattack multiplier stat, dodge stat, etc. were getting an unbalanced boost, which is probably why there's been a lot of speculation that kids are getting Vengeance or Clarity invisibly and for free, which isn't the case.  These issues have all been fixed internally now, thanks for the reports.

Here is a save that had the baby pic problem: http://drop.io/hikmdk6/asset/ceresa-2-elesav

However when I just loaded it the multiple Batrue's had portraits again. My only speculation is that having started a new game since that last save somehow altered it. Does the dynasty system keep information between games? I don't know, but I swear they had baby pics.

I assume you have some magic way of finding them but in case not they are at the extreme northwest end of the continent, sort of north east of the city of "Argent". There are two of them in a party together, both named "Batrue". I have not hired them.

This save also has all of the example in my initial post; I'm especially curious about why they can only take one step during combat (see "Jasra" as an example, she is also the one with 15 base move).

I thought of that, but this game was crashing every 3-5 turns by the end, so I restarted Elemental (and my computer even) many, many times, and the baby pics loaded each time. Or maybe I'm crazy, its all possible