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I dont think magic is working in patch 1.08

I dont think magic is working in patch 1.08

September 17, 2010 10:17:21 AM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

all excited to play the patch last night but no go on magic

Ive only tried the fire book but I just stopped playing last night because the spell FIREBALL would NOT HIT  MISS MISSS MISS MISS MISSS at least

 

25 out of 25 misss miss miss miss   there was no point in playing if the magic all of a sudden stops working

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Reply #1 September 17, 2010 10:17:48 AM
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does any body else notice anything similar

 

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Reply #2 September 17, 2010 10:20:10 AM
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Did you accidentally get the 1.08 patch for some other game or something?

I roflstomped everything with like 1 spell. Damage is consistant now, if you miss miss miss miss, that means you have a really low damage spell against high defense opponents. If you have a shard(s), only cast spells from that element. It's also WAY over powerful early game and weaksauce late game, so don't look to it as a late game strategy.

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Reply #3 September 17, 2010 10:28:32 AM
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It appears to be related to playing v1.08 with a saved game made in v1.07. We're going to do a compatibility tweak today.

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Reply #4 September 17, 2010 10:32:10 AM
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If you have some old mod files (such an unofficial patches) you need to delete them from your mods directory and restart the game.

EDIT: Regarding Frogboy post: what other things are going to be included in the compatibility tweak?

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Reply #5 September 17, 2010 10:32:32 AM
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Also make sure you're not casting that fireball on a darkling...

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Reply #6 September 17, 2010 10:35:05 AM
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Fixes and tweaks = binary goodness.

For my part... in my first 1.08 game, I found a fire shrine next to my starting city (!).

My sovereign proceeded to kill ANYTHING that used to be a tremendous challenge, with ease. Instead of 'not working' I'd say it's a little too good. But that's me... from tending towards melee sovereign, I now barely see a point to trying that approach.

The sudden strong emphasis on few large cities and a couple of mining outposts really makes it desireable to get a way to 'link' resources that are within a city's influence - and closest to that city - to it, despite being out of the 4-square radius.

(Or increase the radius..).

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Reply #7 September 17, 2010 10:40:45 AM
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nah bro i always Make new game with new patch   its a given bro

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Reply #8 September 17, 2010 10:42:35 AM
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nah fireball on bear over and over bro   nothing

 

its so weird to see someone talk on here where they say its more destructive now than before   I CANT EVEN BURN A FUKING WOLF

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Reply #9 September 17, 2010 10:47:39 AM
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Quoting yocmj0110,
reply 8
nah fireball on bear over and over bro   nothing

 

its so weird to see someone talk on here where they say its more destructive now than before   I CANT EVEN BURN A FUKING WOLF

You're lying or something weird is going on.

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Reply #10 September 17, 2010 10:53:02 AM
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Quoting Sythion,
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You're lying or something weird is going on.

i flamed the last person that called someone a liar for reporting a bug that they themselves are not experiencing.  so i am not going to flame you.  BUT: i will remind everyone that stardock's little engine has different results with different hardware configurations.  just because it is not happening with your setup, does not mean it is not happening with his.  quite a few people are also having this problem. 

...most...not...flame...

sigh

 

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Reply #11 September 17, 2010 10:54:18 AM
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Quoting thisisretarded,
reply 10



Quoting Sythion,
reply 9



You're lying or something weird is going on.



i flamed the last person that called someone a liar for reporting a bug that they themselves are not experiencing.  so i am not going to flame you.  BUT: i will remind everyone that stardock's little engine has different results with different hardware configurations.  just because it is not happening with your setup, does not mean it is not happening with his.  quite a few people are also having this problem. 

...most...not...flame...

sigh

 

?

That's why I said "you're lying or something weird is going on."

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Reply #12 September 17, 2010 11:07:58 AM
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Quoting Sythion,
reply 11



?

That's why I said "you're lying or something weird is going on."

yeah?  it was the "you're lying" part that bothered me. 

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Reply #13 September 17, 2010 11:10:11 AM
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Quoting thisisretarded,
reply 12



Quoting Sythion,
reply 11



?

That's why I said "you're lying or something weird is going on."



yeah?  it was the "you're lying" part that bothered me. 

I'm sorry that bothered you, but it is a possibility.

Sigh, no need to continue this route. Here's the point I was trying to make: OP thinks magic system is too weak. He is wrong. The two possibilities are he is either not telling the truth, or he is experiencing a problem that is making the magic not work on his system. Either way, he is incorrect.

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Reply #14 September 17, 2010 11:33:43 AM
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Quoting Sythion,
reply 13



Sigh, no need to continue this route. Here's the point I was trying to make: OP thinks magic system is too weak. He is wrong. The two possibilities are he is either not telling the truth, or he is experiencing a problem that is making the magic not work on his system. Either way, he is incorrect.

 

in reality, what he thinks is that there is that his magic misses 100% of the time (did i mention he was not the only person having this problem?)...he never said that it was "too weak".  so... you are incorrect.

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Reply #15 September 17, 2010 11:38:03 AM
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reply 1
does any body else notice anything similar

 

I ran into the same problem, although at one point I did try to load a particular map I had saved in which I started in a resource rich area. I figured it probably wouldn't function correctly since it was created prior to the patch and I immediately started a new game. I attempted to kill a single wolf, and I cast spells until my mana was gone and not one spell hit.

I've no idea if it was due to the save game loading prior to my new game, or if it was due to my pre-existing sovereign. It was late and I was tired, so I gave up instead of exiting out completely or creating a new sovereign to see if I could recreate the problem.

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Reply #16 September 17, 2010 11:46:44 AM
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Are you using the IceCrown effects for spells?  If so, then you need to remove the mods.   All mods should be removed for this patch, and then only put back when they are updated.

 

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Reply #17 September 17, 2010 11:55:49 AM
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I have numerous issues since downloading 1.08.....

1) I'm having the same problem....miss miss miss on lightening blot repeatedly

2) Another issue...i imbued Janick on the ifrst turn and leveled him up to where his mana is at 10. BUT he only has the mana in friendly territory. When i move him outside of friendly territory it goes to 0/10. move back in and it goes right back to 10/10.  Entered a battle outside of our territory and he was useless. in tactical he had no mana.

3) Patch says study/archivist now requires 1 guildar of upkeep per turn. I see that listed nowhere on the build cost. I don't see it anywhere on the citys report screen. This really needs to be listed somewhere. I built both in one city and my kingdon is making 6.2 guildar per turn but I can;t tell if this upkeep is being applied or not.

This is just what i ran into in the first 10 mins with 1.08....this has me kind of worried

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Reply #18 September 17, 2010 1:38:18 PM
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DUDE its not a lie come on bro i dont have time for that

 

all i know is that the mods are a little tweeked with the new patch   cause there isnt a update for the icecrown spells for 1.08

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Reply #19 September 17, 2010 2:13:28 PM
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It possible that something weird is going on -and- due to other weirdness,  Yocmj is seeing what he/she is seeing. As much as we need to worry about trolls, there's no reason to jump to conclusions and be distrustful of everyone.

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Reply #20 September 17, 2010 2:27:47 PM
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Not having this problem.

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Reply #21 September 18, 2010 12:10:37 AM
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Same problem. Fireballs missing repeatedly. Haven't hit with one yet. This is a game that started with 1.08. However, I think I patched to 1.08b after I started it - but not sure about that.

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Reply #22 September 18, 2010 12:24:24 AM
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I am also experiencing the "first level spells are now useless" problem. Nothing hits. Just like yocm, I couldn't even burn down a stupid wolf.

Added by edit: It's also air book that isn't working. Lightning Strike is now "make pretty flash and thunder but always miss" spell.

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Reply #23 September 18, 2010 12:38:36 AM
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My Sov and champions can't hit jack with a bow either.

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Reply #24 September 18, 2010 12:44:48 AM
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Is it also happen to the magic when you have the related shard?

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Reply #25 September 18, 2010 12:57:24 AM
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Just tried it with a new game re-set on 1.08b. No spells are hitting.Then, restarted again, this time without a custom soverign. Still no luck hitting with spells. Includes Flame Dart, Lightning Strike, and Fireball.

Medium world. All normal difficulty.

 

I'd be curious to hear more from those of you who are having success with combat spells: which are you hitting with?

 

I rely pretty heavily on combat spells in the early game to keep an edge over the creatures, so this pretty much breaks the game for me.   

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