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What I'd like to see in dev journals

September 7, 2010 2:38:17 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

Now that frogboy has decided to scale back his dev journal posts, i'd just like to suggest what i'd like to see:

a running log of what is IN/FIXED for the next patch - whatever that patch would be. that way the community would be apprised of what bugs to stop harping on. might make everyone's life easier.

additionally, in this live document post (since the list would be changed as we neared the patch release) there could be a "priority" section showing what else is being worked on for the patch - with the understanding that if it don't get fixed, it'd be carried over to the next patch log.

i think that's the type of communication many people want to see right now. with that document in existence, the community might be much more receptive to the more design oriented dev journals that riled ppl up this weekend.

my 2c.

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Reply #1 September 7, 2010 2:44:18 PM
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I don't think this is likely. It would be nice, but the logistics just don't work out. First, it would require all the devs to either update the journal each time, or tell someone else (kryo?) each time they think they fixed something.

Even with that, it's not until a couple days before a patch release when all the fixes get to go through QA, and some end up getting pulled (see shard damage fix for 1.07).

There literally isn't a solid list of what's "fixed" until the patch clears.. and that's a couple hours before the patch notes are publicly available.

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Reply #2 September 7, 2010 2:50:07 PM
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Please LOCK them on posting, and keep them coming.

Lee

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Reply #3 September 7, 2010 3:00:56 PM
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Here's what i'd like: A pony.

 

Thanks!

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Reply #4 September 7, 2010 3:05:40 PM
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Quoting solidsmooky,
reply 3
Here's what i'd like: A pony.

 

Thanks!
You can have a pony. *hands you a bag of puppy chow* there we even made it so pieces of your pony will fit in your pocket...

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Reply #5 September 7, 2010 4:41:11 PM
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Quoting Lfseeney,
reply 2
Please LOCK them on posting, and keep them coming.

That seems to be how he's doing it now.  He just posted a 1.08 preview and it's locked.

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Reply #6 September 7, 2010 4:42:47 PM
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or tell someone else (kryo?) each time they think they fixed something.

This is a great idea! 

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Reply #7 September 7, 2010 4:53:07 PM
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Yes, I'm sure he's thrilled at the prospect and just bristling with excitement about it.

*smacks kosc with some hard wood*

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Reply #8 September 7, 2010 4:58:18 PM
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I'd rather see a zero-tolerance policy for trolling instead of locking.

 

If needbe, hire some volunteer community mods for it.

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Reply #9 September 7, 2010 5:06:13 PM
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Quoting Annatar11,
reply 7
Yes, I'm sure he's thrilled at the prospect and just bristling with excitement about it.

*smacks kosc with some hard wood*

Noooo

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Reply #10 September 7, 2010 5:12:05 PM
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Honestly I hate the term trolls. I do agree that they should just hard mod the forum though. If people lay off Froggy im sure once everyone has had a few day breather from yellin at each other things will go back to normal.

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Reply #11 September 7, 2010 5:47:13 PM
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We love your journals Frogboy!     

 

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Reply #12 September 7, 2010 5:57:26 PM
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Just a weekly cut-and-dry changelog please, and maybe one preview of 1.1.

 

I think it's a very wise move to stay away from the journals for now, Brad.  General opinion outside these boards is that you were starting to dig yourself out of a hole.

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Reply #13 September 7, 2010 7:26:25 PM
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Brad shouldn't take shit from these people. I think he needs to adopt a more serious attitude, I mean, many people have been treating him like garbage recently, and all he does is lock the forum. Just tell them, "Make your own f***ing game"! Brad's been way too lenient with the community, and thus the community has developed this ridiculous idea that they can insult and order him around. A more totalitarian approach is needed.

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Reply #14 September 7, 2010 7:39:14 PM
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Quoting AlixeniusTheGreat,
reply 13
Brad shouldn't take shit from these people. I think he needs to adopt a more serious attitude, I mean, many people have been treating him like garbage recently, and all he does is lock the forum. Just tell them, "Make your own f***ing game"! Brad's been way too lenient with the community, and thus the community has developed this ridiculous idea that they can insult and order him around. A more totalitarian approach is needed.

well i think he tried that and it landed him in hot water with the internet.  "damned if you do, damned if you don't" comes to mind.  the problem is that the internet is anonymous, and he is in the spotlight. you can please some of the people all of the time, or all of the people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time.

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Reply #15 September 7, 2010 8:41:24 PM
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Lol, if I ever was a game developer (this scenario is quite plausible), I'd give some serious shit to anybody acting like that. No word of a lie.

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Reply #16 September 7, 2010 9:17:10 PM
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seems like kryo often pokes his head into a bug post and says "yeah, got that one, its coming in patch x" and then there's still 200 posts about it afterwards. both in the thread and new threads. it would keep down on clutter to have a sticky patch post with the "got thems" listed. 

i mean, i assume stardock wants our input on bug reports. im hoping so. they seem like they do. it would be nice to know when to stop submitting them for certain bugs once we know they're squashed.

 

but hey, maybe i'm wrong.

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Reply #17 September 7, 2010 9:45:56 PM
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Quoting cephyn,
reply 16
seems like kryo often pokes his head into a bug post and says "yeah, got that one, its coming in patch x" and then there's still 200 posts about it afterwards. both in the thread and new threads. it would keep down on clutter to have a sticky patch post with the "got thems" listed. 

i mean, i assume stardock wants our input on bug reports. im hoping so. they seem like they do. it would be nice to know when to stop submitting them for certain bugs once we know they're squashed.

I know there isn't much life left in the horse but...

Would be less of an issue if we had a dev tracker or we could search on replies (not just posts).

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