You are correct Elvisman2001, but in more detail: Sunday night for beta testers and Monday morning for those who have ordered before the 23rd of August.  On the 24th o August, you will have to download a update to be equal to the retail version.  However, Frogboy (CEO?) said that they will try to do this, but it's not totally guaranteed.  If I am in error, please feel free to correct me.

It'll prolly be monday morning for Euro beta testers as well. In fact, I thought the whole sunday evening/monday morning thing was refering to timezone differences.

Question about the Technology treaty.. seems to me Umber is getting a far better deal out of it than you are.. so why do they value it so low?

I think it depend from research potential of faction and maybe level of relationship. Umber get more, because their research base poor compared with player faction

satch4684, yes they have uploaded the gold build for reviews, etc so they have disabled pre order copies so we can't get at it until Sunday or Monday based on whether we beta'd it or pre-ordered it.

I can still see it on my list and can't help but try installing it every hour or so just in case, I really need to get out more.

I am curious about children. Will their stats be higher than they were in beta?

Quick question, I am eager to play the game.  I pre-ordered the game, so I should be able to DL the game on Monday @ 0:00 (if all goes well).  But what time zone is Stardock using?  I live in the eastern time zone (-5).  I know, I know, I'm obsessed with playing the game.  I only found out about the existence of this game less than a month ago.  Otherwise I would of helped with the beta versions.  Sorry Frogboy!  I'll help with v1.0 of the game.  I promise!

I'll see your ETZ, and raise you to NZ time - around 17 hours ahead of the US East coast! 

So, might my monday morning download be ahead of someone elses sunday night download? 

So it was elemental that stuff up my sleep for the past few nights. 

tengill, im about the same.  just get 7 hours of sleep.... thatll leave you 5 hours for 'other stuff'

I just found out that Stardock is in the eastern timezone (-5).

Is that true?  I never knew that! 

In that case, just allow players to request a dowry regardless of gender.

I am sooooo looking foward to this game. I only read about it a couple of weeks ago, and have been sucking up any tit bits of information about it I can find anywhere. I am a long term strategy fan, Gal Civ, Sins etc, and love the idea of the 4x RPG hybrid.

Loving the sneak peek story Frogboy, but I too have some questions about the Dynasty system.
As an earlier poster asked - how do the children units react when a marriage to another Kingdom/Empire occurs? Does the incoming son become your unit, does the Sovereigns daughter become their unit? etc.
Also - since different members of the Dynasty are x in line for the throne, if your Sovereign dies at any point does the next in line become the Sovereign that you direct and play, or does the game end?

Tuesday cant come soon enough!