Yeah, I saw my Impulse show a new update, tried to grab it, it give me a popup saying my registration's not valid - I come here because I just want to know I'm in the same boat as everyone else. So pretty much they took down the beta before it's about to be released. Is that what all the fuss is about?

Nobody says that something illegal was done. Only that they did not handle situation well. We do not say "give my beta back or we will sue you".

It's an interesting contract question.  One could argue that the statement provided merely gives Stardock the right to change, suspend, remove or disable ACCESS to any products, content or other materials.  This is different than removing a product entirely from a hard drive.

As Kyro says it is the Customers Fault, Stardock made no errors .

I mean changing posts with no update tag, is how mods always do things.

Allowing personal attacks, with no response.

It was not handled well, there were over last night many things that went wrong, the Largest is SD through Kyro, acting like the Customers did this, Not Stardock, and then Kyro fanned the flames.

If this was not SD I would almost think it was Marketing Ploy to get folks to look this way. 
This was a Screwup, own up.

Lee

Agreed, for those that feel wronged consider this: once Blizzard and Bungie (two other companies known for their community support) had gathered the information they needed from the Starcraft and Halo betas respectively, they cut everyone off for weeks and or months before their release dates and no one said a thing because at least it was better than nothing.  In this case one might have to wait at the most 96 hours without access to an inferior version due entirely to a technical requirement of release and you are mad because you did not recieve a personalized email informing you of this?  Be happy with what you have and do not think by raising a fuss you will get the developers to cave an release 1.0 early.  If anything they might just take offence at your sense of entitlement and give up on trying to give it to you early at all.

The information you have quoted become available only later for me, and I did not know about particular dates when I run the updates. You can not expect that every member scans all the forums each day, do you? I am not even sure if I learned about early release directly from one of Frogboy posts, or from somebody else posts. The fact is that I knew that there will be early release, the fact is that the web site did show release as August 19, the fact is that beta DID recommended to "urgently" update the game and the fact is that the update version was 1.0. There was no any other conclusion that I could come up upon information that I had.

And even if I did know about post by Frogboy about POSSIBLE dates, I would still try to update, because they are A) possible dates, that could have changed, B ) so many other things indicated that the release date DID change, c) It is more likely to have a typo in single post than on official website, in Impulse and together with the window begging to update.

And I mean if you read what that window says you would be scared to continue playing the existent version because bad things may happen, it was THAT urging.

But again, this is hypothetical, because I personally did not know about particular possible release dates.

So, by not means I can say that it is somehow my fault, as kryo and now you are implying. I understand that it is beta, and such things can happen, I do not blame SD for that AT ALL! But situation handling by kryo, saying that it is our fault and locking the threads (new were appearing because old were locked, by the way), was not optimal, to say the least.

thanks, that makes perfect sense - and i would certainly prefer the team allocated resources to post-launch fixes, as opposed to working on the demo...

and to be honest, i think i've read enough of the developer journals, watched enough of the beta vidoes, read enough of the background lore to know this will be a worthwhile purchase... as a software developer myself, i really appreciate it when i find other folks who are as passionate about their labor of love... Stardock deserves my coppers!

"Things happen in the beta" is exactly the bulk of what I've been saying. You're inferring "it's your fault" from "read the stickies and announcements before posting", but the subtext isn't there. Which is understandable if you're irritated over the matter, but that doesn't mean we're going to let a million threads on the subject run amok when it was already asked, answered, and stickied in a calmer fashion earlier in the week.

dang it Solam, so its your fault!

Why not? You could of apologize for inconvenience, promise soon release and let the topic die without locking, (locking only upsets people more). And saying "read the stickies" to the upset person also ... ehm... not optimal, even if your are right.

Of course it is up to you how to handle this situation, you are the moderator and SD employee, not me, but I thought it could have been done slightly better.