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I'm so excited and I just can't hide it...

August 11, 2010 9:37:42 AM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

Hello everyone,

I came across this game by accident just a couple of days ago in a games forum and after reading up on it and watching some beta videos I can say that I am really excited for this game. As a hardcore MoM player back in the days, I am looking forward to getting my hands on Elemental more so than on Civ 5, this has a lot do with its RPG focus and modding capabilities. To be honest, I am quite happy that I didn't know about Elemental earlier, because the waiting game is killing me. Still, I have a few questions I'd like to ask:

 

1. Is the decision not to offer any faction creation ingame final? So, faction creation only by modding them into the game? Not even the possibility to keep the faction creator ingame to adjust slight advantages and disadvantages plus the option to create a completely new one by XML? I can't see how both options exclude each other and I am quite sure that people not into modding will miss the ingame feature a lot.

2. As far as I can tell, units in the beta didn't have (or underemphasized) specific strenghts and weaknesses, i.e. a fire creature that is immune to fire damage and extremely susceptible to ice damage, a non-corporal ghost that is able to move through walls and immune to regular weapon damage etc. I sincerely hope that I either missed it when I was watching the beta videos or that unit specific strenghts and weaknesses will be implemented in the final version, because that is an important element for me concerning combat. I hate games that don't offer a variety of viable abilities and treat any form of damage as basically coming from the same source. 

3. How can I distract myself the next two weeks?!? I played MoM and FFH 2, but it's not really helping. I've never been this excited for a game in a very long time...

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phazonfreak
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Reply #1 August 11, 2010 10:26:03 AM
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3. Try Victoria 2, it comes out this friday but you can get demo right now.

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Reply #2 August 11, 2010 10:27:58 AM
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I can't answer your first two questions, but if you're looking for another "4x" game, I'd say buy Sins of a Solar Empire. I think it'll have a different enough of a feel (heck, it's real-time!) that, even after Elemental is released, you'll still be interested in playing it. I haven't played it as much as I should, but that's because every time I start playing, I lose track of time.

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Reply #3 August 11, 2010 10:28:15 AM
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Quoting ,
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3. How can I distract myself the next two weeks?!? I played MoM and FFH 2, but it's not really helping. I've never been this excited for a game in a very long time...

AoW2-SM / Dominions 3 / Dwarf Fortress

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Reply #4 August 11, 2010 11:32:25 AM
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As for question 1:   I have put together a faction editor ( https://forums.elementalgame.com/390184 ) that will produce a new faction, and I'll keep updating after release if we don't get a Stardock made tool, I'll release the source code as well, so others can make it better.   I don't think that faction editing should hold you back.   There are so (!!!!) many things you can do with this,  it is a bit overwhelming to do in the main game screen, much better to make the race beforehand then just select them in the game.   IMHO

 

2. Special abilities weren't in the betas but are being put in before release (you can see some of them in the XML right now), Frogboy has mentioned that he was working on adding the AI for Special abilities yesterday.   You should see Fire Giants have fire resistance, spiders have poison spit, etc.

 

3.   Good question...  I've been writing mod editors and looking through the xml.  

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Reply #5 August 11, 2010 12:07:17 PM
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Thanks for the answers. I will check out the listed games and I appreciate the communal effort to create a faction editor. 

Let's hope that there will be special abilities. A lack thereof would be the main reason to put me off...

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Reply #6 August 11, 2010 12:22:18 PM
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Quoting Buladelu,
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3. Try Victoria 2, it comes out this friday but you can get demo right now.

 

This, times eleventy.  The Vicky2 demo is so full of win, I'm really looking forward to Friday.  I'm delighted I'll have a game that will keep me fully occupied until the 24th.

In the meantime, if that's not your cup of tea, why don't you trust me and go pick up a digital copy of the Minecraft Alpha.  It may not look like much at first glance, but you'll thank me for it later, I promise.

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Reply #7 August 11, 2010 12:38:10 PM
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Quoting SumoX,
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I can't answer your first two questions, but if you're looking for another "4x" game, I'd say buy Sins of a Solar Empire. I think it'll have a different enough of a feel (heck, it's real-time!) that, even after Elemental is released, you'll still be interested in playing it. I haven't played it as much as I should, but that's because every time I start playing, I lose track of time.

How is the AI in Dominions 3? The one for Dom II was so bad there was no point in playing.

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Reply #8 August 11, 2010 3:41:57 PM
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Quoting Buladelu,
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3. Try Victoria 2, it comes out this friday but you can get demo right now.

Amen to that! I played the demo ALL yesterday... This summer is proving expensive. First SC2, then V2, Elemental, and Civ5?! I'm gonna go broke!

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Reply #9 August 11, 2010 4:00:43 PM
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It seems like we all like the same types of games. I've been following V2 for a while now, still waiting on the reviews. Although, with WoM all other games are taking a backseat though.

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Reply #10 August 11, 2010 4:15:33 PM
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Quoting TheBirthdayParty,
reply 8

Quoting SumoX, reply 2I can't answer your first two questions, but if you're looking for another "4x" game, I'd say buy Sins of a Solar Empire. I think it'll have a different enough of a feel (heck, it's real-time!) that, even after Elemental is released, you'll still be interested in playing it. I haven't played it as much as I should, but that's because every time I start playing, I lose track of time.

How is the AI in Dominions 3? The one for Dom II was so bad there was no point in playing.

 

It's still terrible.

 

Then again Dom isn't really meant to be played SP, other than to test out various 'opening' strategies for the different races.

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Reply #11 August 11, 2010 5:45:43 PM
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Quoting shadowtongue,
reply 12



Quoting TheBirthdayParty,
reply 8

Quoting SumoX, reply 2I can't answer your first two questions, but if you're looking for another "4x" game, I'd say buy Sins of a Solar Empire. I think it'll have a different enough of a feel (heck, it's real-time!) that, even after Elemental is released, you'll still be interested in playing it. I haven't played it as much as I should, but that's because every time I start playing, I lose track of time.

How is the AI in Dominions 3? The one for Dom II was so bad there was no point in playing.


 

It's still terrible.

 

Then again Dom isn't really meant to be played SP, other than to test out various 'opening' strategies for the different races.

Yeah, Doms 3. wasn't made for SP fans...

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Reply #12 August 11, 2010 11:25:18 PM
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Quoting Tiberonmagnus,
reply 11
It seems like we all like the same types of games. I've been following V2 for a while now, still waiting on the reviews. Although, with WoM all other games are taking a backseat though.

Yeah that's what I figured. I'm the only person I know that'd play. alas. Ty for info.

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