In the combat thread we have discussed this quite extensively and completely agree that one stat for movement / number of attacks causes a lot of problems. Specifically we've been calling it the "Sauron / Super-Calvary" problem where people who move far on a battlefield (calvary) suddenly get a ton of attacks, and people who are supposed to have a ton of attacks (Sauron) can suddenly teleport across the battlefield. It's obnoxious.

I'll repost our conclusion from the other thread:

Combat Revamp

1) Combat Points are how far you can move.
2) Your Weapon Speed is how often you can make an attack.
3) A weapon speed of 5 means you will use 1/5th (or 20%) of your Combat Points every time you attack.

 In this system it doesn't matter how many combat points you have, you always can only make the same number of attacks. What determines how many attacks you can make is your weapon speed. If your weapon speed is higher, you're left with a higher number of combat points to move around with after making an attack. Our system completely supports having fractions of movement and weapon speed. 

 The algorithm works like this:

How many Combat Points you use per attack is Total Combat Points (i.e, the cap for the unit) divided by Weapon Speed. So that's Total Combat Points / Weapon Speed = points used per attack.

Normal weapons should have a Weapon Speed of 3 or 4. Slow things like large maces should have a weapon speed of 2. Catapults, which should only fire once, should have a weapon speed of 1. Fast ones go to 4 and up.

Actually I'd go with a totally separated movement & attack system [like I've said in the other topic], because that would be more realistic, but this could work as well. [This is somewhat similar to the AoW combat system.]

Actually you wouldn't have to add anyhing if the devs would decide to implement a separated movement/attack system, IF # of overland movement points = # of tactical movement points. [Like in AoW] However ->

Imo this would be the best system with regard to the movement/attack system [1 new stat should be added / movement should be separated into tactical and overland "variants"]:

Stat 1. = Overland movement points

Stat 2.= Tactical movement points [=AP]*

Stat 3.= Combat speed [this would only affect the number of attacks & number of spells casted / turn]

*AP = tact. movement points [moving, retaliating an enemy strike & using special abilities would affect the AP]

ah ok i agree and i always told that this is my easiest solution

but for some reason stardock dont like it so nothing we can do about it

Okay, now I am confused again, because I thought that we gonna have resistance types as well. We have damage types this is 100%, but we won't have resistance types? What is the point of the damage types in that case?

true

maybe even better instead of flooding units with stats

i know there isnt

but there will be something i suppose

if not what would be the point of having blunt and other type of damages?

(not that i really feeel the need of having them  btw)

So which armor is good vs. piercing damage, which armor is good vs. crushing dmg and which is good vs. blunt dmg? Hopefully all necessary informations will be displayed on the screen.This is a hella weird system. Why do we have this, instead of a "normal" dmg-resistance system?

Well, that's a whole problem in and of itself. From playing the game there's no way to know these things exist. Add that to the list of things that need fixing with tactical combat.

That 'Sauron' thing bugs me.

Ok: Frogboy wants 'Sauron' in late battles.

But Sauron didn't kill 20x1 people in one battle turn. He killed 1x20 people each time.

It had nothing to do with speed. Better have large weapons which can be used with area of effect. Ex: if a Broadsword of Doom is used to attack one soldier, he'll get, say, 14 damage. If the same weapon is used against a tile containing a raid of 22 people, each one of the 22 would get damage ranging from 10 to 12.

THAT would be a Sauron analogy.

Or in AoW there was a dwarf unit with the special ability to hit all surrounding units at the same time. That would be great for some powerful being sure to be surrounded by hordes of enemy

Otherwise, yes, I can't understand either that talk about "godlike cavalry". In AoW, every unit had the same number of attacks (except when magic or ranged): 3. And the number you effectively used was according to your distance moved (green => 3 attacks, orange => 2 attacks, red => 1 attack) or whether you used many counter-attacks the turn before.

There's no reason in Hell to give more attacks to someone who can walk faster because he has longer legs ; it could be according to the weapon: a dagger = fast attacks, a warhammer = slow attacks.

Oh gawd please do not use anything from the AOW combat system that was the worst game ever for me.

Now you might want to look at a game called Magic Realm by AH. Weapon speed in that game determined who hit first not how many times they could strike. Along with that it determined if someone could evade the strike like if the weapon speed was 3 and the run speed of the character it was hitting was 4 then the weapon automatically got a hit chance. Magic Realm has the best and most fun combat system I ever played. Getting a hit chance didn't always mean a hit because each player and npc picked a direction and type of attack. Like a Smash to the Head whereby a duck played by the other player would make it miss unless the attack speed was faster than the duck speed. Wonderful game combat mechanics.