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putting things into perspective

January 10, 2010 7:13:08 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Will Elemental have at least the same depth of tactics, spells, combat, units, exploration and character development as it is in King's Bounty: Armored Princess, and will the unit animation and detail be of the same quality in combat portion of the game as it is in that game?

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Reply #1 January 10, 2010 7:37:34 PM
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Could you possibly be a bit more specific, especially for those of us who never played the game you mentioned and don't want to do more than see if Wikipedia has a decent description, which it doesn't at the moment?

I'm asking because I wonder if you might really care about Stardock's project and aren't just the nasty 'troll' that you seem to be. Strong communities need vibrant minorities, but it's often hard to tell the differnce between constructive critics and reactionary stone-throwers...

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Reply #2 January 10, 2010 11:03:08 PM
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This is kind of a silly post.  Comparing Elemental with King's Bounty the Legend is like comparing apples and oranges.  King's Bounty the Legend is a great game, but you could only have a dozen or so unit animations on the screen at once, hence they could be quite detailed.  As for depth, King's Bounty was more of an RPG than it was an empire building game.  A better question would be if Elemental will be as fun as King's Bounty, but then again, we won't know until it is released.

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Reply #3 January 10, 2010 11:57:27 PM
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There's no way that Elemental will have the technical graphical prowess of King's Bounty. It probably won't have the same level of exploration as King's Bounty either, for King's Bounty's worlds are all hand-crafted and fine-tuned to create an optimal adventuring experience. In Elemental, main focus of the game is empire-building, not playing through an RPG quest. 

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Reply #4 January 11, 2010 12:07:02 AM
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This is the same stuff he was posting that lead to him being banned earlier.  At least he isn't insulting our IQs this time for not thinking that the animations are the MOST IMPORTANT thing.

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Reply #5 January 11, 2010 6:57:53 AM
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Well, I don't think he was banned (as he still has the same profile...) but this certainly is the same kind off post that made him so universally loved on these forums last year. Guess he just retreated under his bridge for a few months... As long as he doesn't start insulting us again, I guess he can keep posting these things although I don't think he will get anymore support compared to last year.

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Reply #6 January 11, 2010 8:05:18 AM
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Quoting KellenDunk,
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 At least he isn't insulting our IQs this time for not thinking that the animations are the MOST IMPORTANT thing.

Lmao!

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Reply #7 January 11, 2010 9:54:29 AM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
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Could you possibly be a bit more specific, especially for those of us who never played the game you mentioned and don't want to do more than see if Wikipedia has a decent description, which it doesn't at the moment?

Can't help you there as it is the best turn-based fantasy RPG ever made, and is very famous and popular, so your marginal situation is of no concern to anyone.

Also it is an expansion for equally successful King's Bounty: The Legend, are you just playing dumb for some weird reason?

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Reply #8 January 11, 2010 9:59:51 AM
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Quoting Demiansky,
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but you could only have a dozen or so unit animations on the screen at once, hence they could be quite detailed. 

The quality of animation always breaks or makes the game, this is true for any genre, whether it is weapon animations in FPS or in Plants vs Zombies.

Animations(from lat.animare=give life) are pivotal to gameplay enjoyment.

I really don't like your irrationality void of any arguments and substance which directly opposes observable reality.

 

P.S.

The subtitle of this topic is "putting things into perspective"

 

 

 

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Reply #9 January 11, 2010 10:07:59 AM
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Yup. Same old trolling twit.

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Reply #10 January 11, 2010 10:15:04 AM
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Those who do not appreciate the greatness of animations are carebears that don't know what is really good, happy with dumbed down animations.

Or something.

 

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Reply #11 January 11, 2010 10:15:40 AM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
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Yup. Same old trolling twit.

 

Can moderators please delete posts from troll-trolls (people whose only contrubution to the topic is saying that the person in question is a troll)?

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Reply #12 January 11, 2010 10:20:03 AM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
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Yup. Same old trolling twit.

 

Hahahaha, seconded

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Reply #13 January 11, 2010 10:22:12 AM
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I reported your posts for troll-trolling, I hope we can have non-infantile discussion here without the superfluous mindless troll labeling and I urge moderators to promptly delete such posts including my own which are a response to such posts, like this one..

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Reply #14 January 11, 2010 11:14:46 AM
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Didn't take long did it?

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Reply #15 January 11, 2010 11:27:50 AM
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Quoting astrath,
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Didn't take long did it?

Yep, I don't know why people do it, just because you are on the internet doesn't mean you have to throw your reason and decorum out the window.

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Reply #16 January 11, 2010 11:30:39 AM
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Quoting astrath,
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Didn't take long did it?

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Reply #17 January 11, 2010 11:59:20 AM
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Quoting SavageBananaMan34,
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There's no way that Elemental will have the technical graphical prowess of King's Bounty.

 

I'm sensing preemptiveness here.

Are you consciously tring to lower your standards to be able to enjoy the game?

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Reply #18 January 11, 2010 12:17:22 PM
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BTW, where can one find the combat gameplay video?

I said I would be back after a couple of months to see if there is any new development in releasing such videos...

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Reply #19 January 11, 2010 12:27:38 PM
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Marketing has requested Battle videos in May, so I wouldn't expect anything before then

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Reply #20 January 11, 2010 2:35:15 PM
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Aw this is adorable.

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Reply #21 January 11, 2010 3:11:12 PM
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Quoting BoogieBac,
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Marketing has requested Battle videos in May, so I wouldn't expect anything before then

 Ah well.

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Reply #22 January 11, 2010 3:36:43 PM
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So, Hortz, see you in May?...

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Reply #23 January 11, 2010 3:37:31 PM
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Quoting BoogieBac,
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Marketing has requested Battle videos in May, so I wouldn't expect anything before then

 

Could you at least tell us the scope of the animations in combat, to what extent will they be symbolic and to what extent will various actions be animated?

Will people enjoy seeing combat action as much as they do in King's Bounty?

This is the most important part of the game, after all....

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Reply #24 January 11, 2010 4:06:57 PM
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The problem with your posts Hortz are that you assume EVERYONE thinks the same way that you do. Meaning, you're assuming that EVERYONE thinks the animations are the most important part of the game.

Sadly, you are very much mistaken.

I happen to think, along with a lot of other people (including Frogboy I believe) that GAMEPLAY is the most important part of a game.

Ever play M.U.L.E. back in the 80's. They have remade that game as a web-game and the graphics for it are still just as bad as they were mediocre back then. Yet, it is still fantastically fun just like it was back then.

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Reply #25 January 11, 2010 4:17:03 PM
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Quoting Charvel1,
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that GAMEPLAY is the most important part of a game.

Well, that's just a false dichotomy, animations enrich every aspect of every game, remember Resident Evil 4,5, Mass Effect, Plants vs Zombies, Gyromancer....

 

Every game that failed had some fundamental flaws in the quality of animation.

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