Elemental BETA: Before summer ends » Forum Post by Frogboy

I suspect I will go ahead and pre-order sometime this week afterall(just the digital though as my gaming funds are all but depleted and the extra $10 for shipping is painful)...though I doubt my current old clunker will be able to run it proper. (End of the year/start of next and a modern 64bit PC with 2 monitors at long last will be a grand old time...)

Besides, I'm the Roguelike guy. Who wouldn't want a Roguelike guy in general helping to shape the game a bit here and a bit there? What could possibly go wrong...

Edit: Well OK, 1 minute ago pre-ordering still counts as sometime this week.

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I am on pins and needles waiting for beta on this.

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Trust me guys, the cloth map is hilarious fun. Also faster than the 3d world. Don't believe Brad! Testing can be FUN!

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astrath

Join Date 04/2006

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Quoting getter77,

reply 51

I suspect I will go ahead and pre-order sometime this week afterall(just the digital though as my gaming funds are all but depleted and the extra $10 for shipping is painful)...though I doubt my current old clunker will be able to run it proper. (End of the year/start of next and a modern 64bit PC with 2 monitors at long last will be a grand old time...)

But seeing as the game is designed to be able to run on low end as well as high end rigs, they will want to know how well it runs on your 'old clunker'

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I'm still holding out on that 20% coupon that was said to be coming again before the beta started.

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I'm still holding out on that 20% coupon that was said to be coming again before the beta started.

Derr, what?

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Quoting astrath,

reply 54

Quoting getter77, reply 51I suspect I will go ahead and pre-order sometime this week afterall(just the digital though as my gaming funds are all but depleted and the extra $10 for shipping is painful)...though I doubt my current old clunker will be able to run it proper. (End of the year/start of next and a modern 64bit PC with 2 monitors at long last will be a grand old time...)

But seeing as the game is designed to be able to run on low end as well as high end rigs, they will want to know how well it runs on your 'old clunker'

I dunno...the laptopish dealies they mentioned here and there as low water marks are something I would reckon that'd lord over my nigh 6ish year old desktop that wasn't anywhere near top of the line in any aspect save the 2 GB of RAM I wound up with.

We'll see how it goes and all going on though...for now at least I badly need a stable/working mouse on all fronts---hopefully before the new PC!

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Thanks for the answers guys. Guess I'm heading down to the bank to put money in so I can spend it on-line this week.

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Okay, I just pre-ordered it. You awful people provoking me to spend money. Good job guys

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I'd like to preorder, but...

The preorder page says I won't be charged until the product is available. Does that mean when it ships? My card expires in November, which is almost certainly before the game ships.

Hopefully I can get some kind of answer before the beta ships, I'd hate to miss the deadline :/

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This probably means nothing but.....

After GalCiv(s), SOASE and DemiGod I have unyielding faith that you will produce a fun game that is fresh. There is no way I would pre-order any game from any company other than stardock...you guys have been THAT good (with the exception of perhaps releasing Demigod too early).

I just pre-ordered and am confident that it was the right decision.

Thank you stardock for the many hours of fun you provide!!!!!!

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Quoting boar_amour,

reply 60

I'd like to preorder, but...

The preorder page says I won't be charged until the product is available. Does that mean when it ships? My card expires in November, which is almost certainly before the game ships.

Hopefully I can get some kind of answer before the beta ships, I'd hate to miss the deadline :/

Well, if you are really desperate, maybe you can preorder now, get access to the beta and then cancel that preorder and buy the game with a new card. Not sure if this is a good practice, but at least the company will still get your money. Maybe somebody can offer a better solution.

Actually this whole we-will-charge-you-when-we-ship is kind of annoying. If you are serious about buying it is much more convenient to pay up front, when you have the money and a working card, not in some indeterminate moment in the future. Also, you can't you Paypal because of it. Maybe Stardock should make a checkbox for the "Take my money now. Pretty please." option.

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I made a preorder a few days ago from the website (wouldn't want to miss the first beta , and only then did I install impulse.

My preorder is currently not listed, and I don't have any serial number to register Elemental (I only have an order number), is it normal ?

I know that beta 1 has not started yet, but as Elemental is already listed on Impulse, I wonder if I have missed something that would list it as preordered or if I am just supposed to wait for the beta launch and then only receive a serial.

Edit: found the answer in a previous post => Serial will be send by e-mail once the beta starts

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Quoting Fhoenix,

reply 62

Actually this whole we-will-charge-you-when-we-ship is kind of annoying. If you are serious about buying it is much more convenient to pay up front, when you have the money and a working card, not in some indeterminate moment in the future. Also, you can't you Paypal because of it. Maybe Stardock should make a checkbox for the "Take my money now. Pretty please." option.

On the other hand, if something horrible should happen to prevent the game from ever being released (an unthinkable event, I know ), they've not taken your money and given you no product.

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Well, this is why I proposed this as an option. For those who think the probability of such an event is rather low (or would rather not think about it at all )

I pre-ordered through Impulse and all I received was an order number, so I think everything is fine. Unless it should have appeared in the "My Games" section right away.

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The preorder page says I won't be charged until the product is available. Does that mean when it ships? My card expires in November, which is almost certainly before the game ships.

You will be charged as soon as the beta is available. You will not have to pay anything for the game after that. So you can go ahead with your pre-order.

Actually this whole we-will-charge-you-when-we-ship is kind of annoying.

This is not how it is going to work. Where did you get that information?

Quote from the pre-order page (after you click "Add to cart"):

NOTICE: Your order contains at least one Pre-Order item that will not be charged to you at this time. You will only be charged for the items in your cart that are available at this time. Your preorder will be saved in our system, and when the product becomes available, you will be charged and notified.

Beta = becoming available

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Wintersong

Join Date 07/2006

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Quoting Wahngrok,

reply 66

Beta = becoming available

Beta = becoming available as a beta with only cloth map to start with and that won't be fun because Stardock's betas are real betas and because Frogboy loves to remind us of how unfun it's going to be.

Just mentioning for the newbies.

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Quoting Wahngrok,

reply 66

This is not how it is going to work. Where did you get that information?

Quote from the pre-order page (after you click "Add to cart"):
NOTICE: Your order contains at least one Pre-Order item that will not be charged to you at this time. You will only be charged for the items in your cart that are available at this time. Your preorder will be saved in our system, and when the product becomes available, you will be charged and notified.
Beta = becoming available

Well, I could ask you the same thing: where did you get that information? There is no mention of beta in the text that you quote, so it is kind of logical to assume that product = finished game. Then again, if you are so sure about that, I'll believe you, it's not like I know anything about how this thing works.

Oh, and let me rephrase my statement: this whole we-will-charge-you-when-we-make-a-beta is kind of annoying.

Since some people have actually preordered the game some months ago, the situtation does not change fundamentally if you get charged in September. It would simply be more convenient to have the option of paying up front. Not that I do not understand if for some reason it would be hard to implement. Simply voicing my opinion.

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kryo

Join Date 05/2003

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Wahngrok's interpretation is correct. You are charged when the product is made available to you, regardless the state it is in. The system cannot charge you without giving you anything.

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Aha, well the use of the wording "release" (which was used iirc) in conjuction with a game that has a beta phase could be somewhat confusing. I would assume they mean the big official release, not the release of the beta.

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Well, I could ask you the same thing: where did you get that information?

That's how Stardock betas have alway worked (for as long as I can remember). Also there are a few threads on this forum where this system was officially confirmed. Since Kryo has done it in this thread as well I won't go searching for them.

It would simply be more convenient to have the option of paying up front.

As long as it would be an option I agree. But I'm done pre-ordering from steam because they give you no choice...

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Quoting kryo,

reply 69

Wahngrok's interpretation is correct. You are charged when the product is made available to you, regardless the state it is in. The system cannot charge you without giving you anything.

Euhh.. sure about that? I pre-ordered the game last Sunday, the sixth, and I was charged almost right away.

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You're not supposed to be charged right away... they just check if your credit card is ok and send a pre-charged... nothing has left your credit card... check it in details

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Quoting blakspek,

reply 73

You're not supposed to be charged right away... they just check if your credit card is ok and send a pre-charged... nothing has left your credit card... check it in details

Yes the sum of $49.95 still remains "pre-charged" but either way, I'm not able to use that money because it has been deducted from my bank account even if it still remains pre-charged. I don't know if banks elsewhere do it some other way, but here pre-charged means the money is out of your use, no longer in your bank account and no longer usable by you.

I mean it's not a big deal as long as I don't get charged again when the beta starts. Just seems weird the cart and the e-mail I received both say I will NOT be charged before the product becomes available (even in beta form) when in fact I have $49.95 less money in my bank account to use than I did before the pre-order

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RonLugge

Join Date 05/2004

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Talk to your bank! We don't know anything about your local bank's habits, but it sounds like they put a more permanent 'hold' on the funds than they should have. I know that my bank frequently puts 'holds' on funds (marked on my e-statement as being 'pending' transactions) that represent the fact that the money is going to be withdrawn, even if it hasn't actually happened yet. That said, they usually drop off in a day or so if no actual charge arrives, and your bank should have similar behaviour!

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