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Reply #4376 December 30, 2013 4:05:55 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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TobiWahn,

I will need to rework the jumpengine abilities for the titans, as well as some others like the Narn energy mine. Grrr, the commit I was going to send you tomorrow will be at least a week after the New Year.

No problem, have been away a few days and will not be fully accessible until second week of January, so no hurry.

Quoting Lavo_2,
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TitanUpgradeLevel is the only way for abilities to work on Titans as the Titans' upgrade system is the same as the star base's.

Thanks Lavo!

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Reply #4377 January 1, 2014 7:15:59 AM
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TobiWahn,

In reworking the Narn Energy Mine abilities and buffs, added Titan and Corvette. Corvette was added to the Secondary buff set with the fighters because when I ran the numbers it was auto kill in many instances for the Centauri corvettes of which they have several. Since the Centauri would abandon that practice in the face of the effectiveness of the Narn Energy Mine it was apparent that the ability has a lesser effect on the corvette class ships. This works well in my quick modeling, we'll need feedback on the reality once the changes are in game.

Edit: Ability doesn't target corvettes but buffs will effect any in the AOE.

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Reply #4378 January 3, 2014 3:12:27 PM
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TobiWahn,

Another DB issue: under Abilities InstantActions SpawnShipsAtPlanet is incomplete. Refer to SoaSE Abilities:

DarkCapitalShip

DarkCombatFleet

DarkSupportFleet

PirateMercenaries

for examples of the missing fields in the DB.

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Reply #4379 January 3, 2014 7:38:58 PM
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Hi Darvroth,

thanks for the info, added fields

spawnShipsArrivalDelayTime
spawnShipsHyperspaceSpawnType

to spawnShips, will be in the next build of the db, but untested for now.

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Reply #4380 January 4, 2014 4:15:23 AM
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Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi,
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to spawnShips, will be in the next build of the db, but untested for now.

Also, if the frigate field was attuned to the frigate section of the DB that would help a lot! One of the themes of the Shadow I'm working are a set of abilities to call either short term or permanent aid. In the show there were always a few extra Shadow ships just waiting for the right moment to slip into normal space and cause mayham... Should be a rude surprise once in game. The trick of balancing on my part is the quantity and duration of this aid...

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Reply #4381 January 4, 2014 12:40:17 PM
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TobiWahn,

Just tried the holiday release in MP with my son and immediately encountered a sync error at tick:100.

Medium random map with EA as AI, Minbari and Centauri as player controlled. All fast game options were maxed out and no victory condition was set.

Edit: Encountered an additional bug and opened a new ticket in response.

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Reply #4382 January 5, 2014 2:49:31 AM
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Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi,
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spawnShipsArrivalDelayTime

This does absolutely nothing in practice.

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Reply #4383 January 6, 2014 1:30:00 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
reply 4381
TobiWahn,

Just tried the holiday release in MP with my son and immediately encountered a sync error at tick:100.

Medium random map with EA as AI, Minbari and Centauri as player controlled. All fast game options were maxed out and no victory condition was set.

Edit: Encountered an additional bug and opened a new ticket in response.

Hmmm. Sync errors? Anybody experience in this? Are these stemming from abilities? Or rather other things?

Quoting Lavo_2,
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This does absolutely nothing in practice.

Really? Odd...

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Reply #4384 January 12, 2014 5:49:46 AM
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All,

The research tech StripToTheCore is an obvious mechanic to destroy a planet via substitution of another planet type. However I've yet to figure out how to connect the alteration of the scrap planet function to an ability or a buff. Rebellion has two buffs: buffStripToTheCoreSelf and buffStripToTheCoreTarget but they just clean up the planet orbitals and have function to adjusting the planet type itself. Various other known modders have stated in the forum there is no ability to destroy a planet. Modders are a smart resourceful bunch. Has anyone figured out how to link the StripToTheCore mechanic to an ability/buff combination and posted their results? In SotYR both the Vorlon and Shadow have the ability to destroy planets, however the mechanic in our reference material doesn't have either faction controlling the planet before destruction but I imagine it would be possible to have colonize then immediately scrap the planet if a mechanic to do so exists... Any help would be greatly appreciated. The Titans for both are fleshing out but the ability to destroy a planet is THE key core mechanic that differentiates the elder races from the younger... Many thanks.

Darvroth

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Reply #4385 January 12, 2014 6:44:07 AM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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However I've yet to figure out how to connect the alteration of the scrap planet function to an ability or a buff.

This cannot be done. SttC is tied to the scuttling of a planet, not a buff.

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Reply #4386 January 17, 2014 12:00:06 AM
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Update on AI info. Some new stuff has been learned. https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/451274/page/1/

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Reply #4387 January 17, 2014 5:49:52 PM
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Quoting boshimi336,
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Update on AI info. Some new stuff has been learned. https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/451274/page/1/[/quote]

Wow, thanks for the link

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Reply #4388 January 18, 2014 4:09:36 AM
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Quoting boshimi336,
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Update on AI info. Some new stuff has been learned. https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/451274/page/1/[/quote]

Ditto

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Reply #4389 January 18, 2014 8:22:56 AM
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The AI discussion brings to light some interesting things. We have multiple techs with AiAutoUse set to false, perhaps that needs to change. I also haven't checked the tech priority but none should be zero... The bit about resourcing would also explain why the Vorlon and Shadow never acquire more than the first capital ship, the AI can never afford it. Much to think about.

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Reply #4390 January 19, 2014 4:39:26 PM
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Hi Guys,

I'm on vacation at the moment, so won't be avail till Saturday. Hope you have a nice week. 

tobias

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Reply #4391 January 20, 2014 12:02:13 PM
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Have fun. I should have some integration work ready when you get back.

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Reply #4392 January 29, 2014 3:38:47 PM
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The revised EA tech tree has an issue that leads a minidump. I haven't isolated it yet but based on game progression when the AI was EA speculate it is a tech in tier 3-5.

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Reply #4393 January 29, 2014 5:28:51 PM
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Tech and planet module "orbital turrets" were all kinds of messed up but I don't think is the cause of the minidumps. I may have to send a commit to correct the minidump issue before finishing the Elder titans.

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Reply #4394 January 30, 2014 4:17:24 PM
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Ability DeployDiplomaticOutpost on EA mobile constructor is incomplete. Additionally, EA tech Babylon Defense Grid and Babylon project aren't complete. EA diplomatic station upgrades are incomplete.

My best guess is an AI attempts to deploy a mobile constructor to build a diplomatic station which won't work for the above reasons; which leads to a minidump. I'll complete and include as part of the Elder titan work. The quickest fix in the short term is to remove ability DeployDiplomaticOutpost from the EA mobile constructor.

I haven't found any other EA tech issues that would lead to a minidump. I'll perform other clean up work noted in the last comment in ticket 142.

Vorlon and Shadow require additional work as well as outlined in ticket 168 some of which I've already done.

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Reply #4395 January 30, 2014 5:12:31 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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Ability DeployDiplomaticOutpost on EA mobile constructor is incomplete. Additionally, EA tech Babylon Defense Grid and Babylon project aren't complete. EA diplomatic station upgrades are incomplete.

My best guess is an AI attempts to deploy a mobile constructor to build a diplomatic station which won't work for the above reasons; which leads to a minidump. I'll complete and include as part of the Elder titan work. The quickest fix in the short term is to remove ability DeployDiplomaticOutpost from the EA mobile constructor.

I haven't found any other EA tech issues that would lead to a minidump. I'll perform other clean up work noted in the last comment in ticket 142.

Vorlon and Shadow require additional work as well as outlined in ticket 168 some of which I've already done.

Thanks for all your work. I've had little time the last two weeks, and will be able to commit to the project by end of February. Lots of stuff going on, both work and privately. Raider Carrier model is done, still misses UV and texture.

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Reply #4396 January 31, 2014 1:03:11 PM
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Found another DB bug. Under abilities useCostType the selection HullandAntimatter doesn't reveal the expected drop down menus. If this option is made available apply as you see fit to the Shadow Death Cloud Ability "D".

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Reply #4397 January 31, 2014 1:07:08 PM
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Note on the Shadow Death Cloud, abilities won't activate often but when they do, wow.

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Reply #4398 January 31, 2014 4:47:15 PM
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Another DB limitation, it doesn't have the capacity to build cannonshells. I'll attach the needed file when I send the next commit and explain the linkage. Necessary for the DeathCloud sterilize planet ability to function properly.

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Reply #4399 January 31, 2014 5:52:32 PM
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I beefed up the Younger races mines. Using a capital ship to plow through a minefield to clear it is now a bad idea. Most races have two ships with mine detection/clearance abilities, their use is recommended.

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Reply #4400 January 31, 2014 6:04:45 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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I beefed up the Younger races mines. Using a capital ship to plow through a minefield to clear it is now a bad idea. Most races have two ships with mine detection/clearance abilities, their use is recommended.

Cool. Does the AI use them too?

Quoting Darvroth,
reply 4398

Another DB limitation, it doesn't have the capacity to build cannonshells. I'll attach the needed file when I send the next commit and explain the linkage. Necessary for the DeathCloud sterilize planet ability to function properly.

Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what is missing where. But if you tell me, I'll try to remedy it

Quoting Darvroth,
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Found another DB bug. Under abilities useCostType the selection HullandAntimatter doesn't reveal the expected drop down menus. If this option is made available apply as you see fit to the Shadow Death Cloud Ability "D".

Will look into this.

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