M.A.D. in a fantasy world. Fantastic.
Like a fantasy arms race.

But, there's the problem of how to make the MAD mutual. Plain old AD may be fun, but it makes for a VERY short game...... maybe have something similar to the real nuke, where you start out only able to cast one or two of them at a time at first, tyhen as the spell grows in popularity it becomes easier......

To prevent derailing this thread, I'm probably going to move the MMAD discussion into another post pretty soon.

I think it would be cool if the things way at the end of the tech tree require both the tech and magic. So, for example, lets say that the city-destroying superweapon is a gaint (really really giant, how else will it be able to hit far off cities?) trebuchet. It hurls a projectile infused with a huge amount of magic. So you have to research the giant trebuchet, but you have to use magic to make it a true superweapon.

And maybe, depending on what the time-period is, if air-ships and/or trains (or something similar) get included, those could require a bit of magic as well. Magic to make the air-ship fly, but a steam engine to actually make it go forward?

I also think that some of the more bizarre inventions from history could maybe be included. Maybe Archemidies' death ray, which supposedly used a lot of mirrors to focus the sun to the point where it could ignite ships.

Just my $0.02

i hope the tech tree is even more indepth than it was for GalCiv2 , which was had a very big tech tree.

running out of research in MoM always meant to me it was time pull the research slider to min and lock it.

I like civilization's "future tech" idea, where there is just a generic tech at the end that can be researched over and over again with stacking bonuses.   In this I'd imagine it to be something like "future war tech"  "future channeling tech" and "future economy tech" giving bonuses to weapons/damage, mana usage/perturn, and money production respectivly.

From this dev post:

To me that sounds like they intend for all technologies to be like Civ IV's Future Tech. You can research any of the techs for however long you want and it'll constantly improve whatever you're researching, forever. I personally love this idea, even though it means tech bonuses need to be fairly generic. I'm still hoping that we get more than 20 techs plus a few, though.

Fascinating. Wonder if there will be prereqs and unlockable techs?

I like it when it's pure fantasy.

When I get an army of rifflemen in front of me it's a big turn off. I like the idea of starting off in the dark ages and moving up. If the entire world as been destroyed then it's normal to expect that agriculture as been lost. Some few humans might remember how to do it but  most of the tools are land is gone.

As far back as it can star and move it along up to just before modern techs. Lets not go there. If we do we are bound to have big problems

Channeler: get the army together now!

General: sorry they are on strike, they feel they don't have enough wii time. Oh and they want 2 weeks more vacation.

Channeller: Cast end of world spell...  Here we go again!

I don't know why, but it seems that some of you guys are obsessed with the thought of labelling the E:WoM fantasy as something we already know, ie. norse, greek, japanese mytholgy. Stardock has the oppportunity to do exactly what they like with their fantasy setting, and the way I see it, there's really nothing  that stops them from doing just that.

IMO: screw the real world historical technological developments. E:WoM has a completely different outset. IT HAS MAGIC! Why would the people ever need to invent gunpowder when their leaders can command meteors from the heavens with their voice, alter the tides with a thought or summon earthquakes with a flick of their wrist? But then again, why would such a people ever bother doing anything? Beats me...

That stance however would make for a rather boring 4X game, so ON TOPIC: What technology span I really would like to see was something that started simple: hunter/gatherer society, moving on to basic agriculture, animal husbandry, metallurgy, mechanical machines. I agree with the people saying that gunpowder should be left out, and in reality I think that it's quite possible for the world to *not* have invented gunpowder, seeing as it quite possibly started out as an accident anyway. Techs that supported the channelers innate powers would be cool. Something in the ways of magically powered mills, magical item creating (staffs, rods, orbs etc. that could possibly be given to weaker channlers, imbueing them with more power), automatons imbued with magical life (e.g. golems)

On the topic of roads: I think that both dirt roads and cobbled roads should be available at all times. I don't think it's that much of a leap that it warrents it's own tech upgrade. It's been used all over the world, but the building of roads (both dirt and *especially* cobbled) requires VAST amounts of workpower.

Also: the Spell of Mastery would be the equivalent of dropping a billion nukes on top of the enemy, but with the positive side effect that instead of annihilating the planet, you win.

...isn't that pretty much what happens when you nuke them?

That sounds suspiciously like a Fallout-like TBS in concept (well, the post-apocalyptic theme, at least).   Which, come to think of it, could actually be a very cool thing.  Start out emerging from the vault.  Your people have retained a fair amount of "maintenance" technology knowledge, but much of the science has been lost, and you must either re-research it or rediscover it in order to be able to create technology again.  The map would have good reason to be rife with both hazards and troves of forgotten knowledge that survived the fall - and the extreme scarcity of resources would be a great motivator of actions.  Might lend itself really well to being done as a mod...

I think they're called "Fallen".

But seriously, magically re-engineering your population is something I'd expect to be be exclusive to evil/Fallen channelers. Well, apart from things like the Fountain of Life from MoM, which'd be an indirect way for good channelers to boost population strength. (ie. faster population growth due to longer lives/no diseases and higer productivity due to happy people)

Here is the journal I saw it, if you move down a bit there's a screenshot and he talks about different paths opening up as you progress.

https://forums.elementalgame.com/361047