"I can say that Beta 0 is not going to happen in June now.  We might be able to do an Alpha then but that will only go out to a very tiny number of people (maybe 100 tops).  I’m reserving 10 places and the rest will come from the pre-order pool as a lottery with points given to those who have GalCiv II + Sins + Demigod.  Beta 0 would likely be July at this point but I’ll know more at the end of the week."

Frogboy in one of the recent journals.  The Demigod fiasco has put Elemental back a bit.

Technically, he said that he would know more at the end of the week, not that he was going to tell us.

I'll tell you whats up!

*insert dirty joke here*

I'm kinda expecting it to be a surprise when the beta releases.  Like Frogboy poisting a journal saying "yeah... its up now, download it from impulse"

The public beta will be open to everyone who's pre-ordered. The invitation/lottery talk is about a *possible* limited alpha, maybe sometime in June.

Eh? No they don't - their betas that are available are usually very focused and often barren. That's especially true of the first beta (not the potential, invite-only alpha), which is going to be the cloth map only.

From all Frogboy was saying in the journal entry, I'd expect the first beta in July now.

The home page still says public beta by June.

Maybe this should be changed...

Or: "For those of you, non-Stardock testers, that has been testing the alpha, you should know that next week we are going beta and..." Joking, of course. Frogboy wouldn't do such a thing.

Why such need of alpha/beta now? Surely they are still trying to get things right in the econ department after that Tarrasque-like thread... It'll start whenever they have what they want to test with us.

And no one should really care about the karma. What gives? A week maybe two of alpha if it happens? You should be happy that your opinion is important to Stardock no matter your karma. Just don't be a , specially with .

We'll know when it starts going up, because we'll get credit card charges, emails about credit card charges, and a 2000 page forum thread full of "I got mine!" and "where is mine!?"

We haven't had an update since Boogie's "we're on track for June" and Frogboy's "we're not going to see it in June". When July 1 rolls around, I'll start pestering for another update.

Hehe, Duke Nukem Forever.....strong emphasis on the 'Forever' part!

I'm still waiting for the web based game "Forum: War of Trolls" to be released. It has been in beta forever...