Quoting Leauki, reply 15
So he didn't even say he would rebuild the Temple?
That is one failed Messiah!
Or maybe you don't know this. The Jewish view of the Messiah since the time of the Prophets has been that he would bring all the Jews back to Israel, bring about world peace, and rebuild the Temple. Actually all that will be one big project and work together. (He will apparently also be of the Davidic line of kings.)
We are still waiting for the Messiah who will rebuild the Temple.
OVERSEER POSTS:
He WAS the temple.
Thank you for telling the truth...and as you know there were many in Christ's day who saw Him perform miracles and signs and still didn't understand or bellieve that He was God Incarnate.
LEAUKI POSTS:
Jesus was a man, not a temple. The Temple still stood in Jerusalem when Jesus died.
It's the "Jesus was the temple" thing that is not based on scriptures.
It is based upon Scripture but ones you are not likely to be familiar with...St.John 2 and St. Mark 26
Here's the Douay Rheims version:
St.John 2.....13 And the pasch of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And he found in the temple them that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting. 15 And when he had made, as it were, a scourge of little cords, he drove them all out of the temple, the sheep also and the oxen, and the money of the changers he poured out, and the tables he overthrew.
16 And to them that sold doves he said: Take these things hence, and make not the house of my Father a house of traffic. 17 And his disciples remembered, that it was written: The zeal of thy house hath eaten me up. 18 The Jews, therefore, answered, and said to him: What sign dost thou shew unto us, seeing thou dost these things? 19 Jesus answered, and said to them: Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 The Jews then said: Six and forty years was this temple in building; and wilt thou raise it up in three days?
21 But he spoke of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was risen again from the dead, his disciples remembered, that he had said this, and they believed the scripture, and the word that Jesus had said. 23 Now when he was at Jerusalem, at the pasch, upon the festival day, many believed in his name, seeing his signs which he did. 24 But Jesus did not trust himself unto them, for that he knew all men, 25 And because he needed not that any should give testimony of man: for he knew what was in man.
And St.Mark.....
53 And they brought Jesus to the high priest; and all the priests and the scribes and the ancients assembled together. 54 And Peter followed him from afar off, even into the court of the high priest; and he sat with the servants at the fire, and warmed himself. 55 And the chief priests and all the council sought for evidence against Jesus, that they might put him to death, and found none.
56 For many bore false witness against him, and their evidences were not agreeing. 57 And some rising up, bore false witness against him, saying: 58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple made with hands, and within three days I will build another not made with hands. 59 And their witness did not agree. 60 And the high priest rising up in the midst, asked Jesus, saying: Answerest thou nothing to the things that are laid to thy charge by these men?
61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said to him: Art thou the Christ the Son of the blessed God? 62 And Jesus said to him: I am. And you shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of the power of God, and coming with the clouds of heaven. 63 Then the high priest rending his garments, saith: What need we any further witnesses? 64 You have heard the blasphemy. What think you? Who all condemned him to be guilty of death. 65 And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him: Prophesy: and the servants struck him with the palms of their hands.
These passages tell us of the Temple of Jerusalem which had replaced the previous sanctuary which the Isrealites carried around in the wilderness, was the place selected by God during the Old Covenant to express His presence to the people in a special way.
Christ's words and actions as He expels the traders from the temple clearly show that He is the Messias foretold by the prophets. That's exactly why some Jews approach Him and ask Him to give a sign of His power. Jesus' reply in v. 20 remains obscure until His Resurrection from the dead. The Jewish authorities try to turn into an attack on the Temple which merits the death penalty. Later they will taunt Him with it when He is suffering on the Cross and later still in their case against Stephen before the Sanhedrin.
There was nothing derogatory in what Jesus said, contrary to what false witnesses made out. The miracle He offers them which He calls "the Sign of Jonah", will be His own resurrection on the 3rd day. Jesus is using a metaphor, as if to say, "Do you see me...this temple? Well, imagine it will be destroyed would it not be a miracle to rebuild it in 3 days? That is what I will do for you as a sign. For you will destroy My body which is the true temple, and I will rise again on the 3rd day."
No one understand at the time what He was saying, Jews and disciples alike thought He was speaking about rebuilding the temple which Herod had begun to construct in 19-20BC. Later on, the disciples grasped what He was saying and understood what He really meant.
