I think other changes, made to slow down the colony rush, are responsible for your economic problems, not the tech inflation.

Try leaving tiles unbuilt on until your population grows enough to support them. Exploit econ resources. For worlds with no manufacturing or research bonuses, turn them into cash cows by building lots of trade centers/stock exchanges and building up the population (more taxpayers).

Hopefully Brad will get Trade restored to what I think is its intended performance, which can help out a lot with your economy (but doesn't now in TA).

What exactly does bug do? I bought the game a week ago (digital download) and it has already been updated to version 1.9.1 from 1.8 when I bought it. I dont know if that fixed the bug you are speaking of......cuz I haven't noticed a bug. What does it do again?

Well someone had to notice the bug without 'knowing what we're talking about'. Thats why this thread even exists.

I was just asking for a quick breakdown to save the time of reading two pages of thread.

Now that I know what we're talking about. I actually thought it was done purposely to have every races individual tech tree have a slow down point (or a new breakthrough point that takes time to master) along different branches.
Example: Its takes two turns a pop to research the whole deflector line but when you switch to sheilds....well that takes 20 turns to research the first one in line because its a new tech. Then when you research lvl 2 of sheilds it goes back to 2 turns.

Now I never played GalCiv2 DL or DA. I started right with Twilight. So I don;t know what it was like during the first 2 installments

Yep. That sounds like a great idea, actually. It'd make you have to specialize in certain techs more, instead of just picking up every one of the cheap ones.

Unfortunately, the present "system" seems completely random, and just means that I'll never see a large class ship. (I'm not willing to spend 60 weeks researching them any more than the AI is.)

Thanx. It sounds like the new tweak is a good one if it worked properly. I really thought that certain techs just were expensive for some reason.

I think it's scheduled for Thursday or Friday. (Sigh, I'm going to be out of town for a week and won't be able to jump on it right away ( )

Oh please. The game has been borderline unplayable for me and others since this bullshit poorly-tested unneeded 'release patch'. Thank GOD my laptop still has the last beta version still on it. How fucking pathetic is that, that the BETA product is better than the RELEASE one?

Stardock dumped an extremely crappy game-breaking patch on us, and then left us with cold feet, a broken heap of crap I'd never have paid for if this is what I knew the final result would be.

No, it's basically just you. Your ideas of tech costs clearly do not have the popular support you wish they did. As I said in the other topic, mod it yourself.

Otherwise, bring on the involuntary refund and banhammer, Frogboy!

How about this - for every 'tech speeds are perfect' thread you can give me, I'll give you one 'tech speeds are broken', AND a 'tech trading is broken' thread!

It's only a game, remember?

"Oh well the reason why you're wrong is because everyone who disagrees is too busy playing the game".

So, let's take this thread. Are you going to say that the people complaining about lousy Korx AI performance are wrong because clearly the people who think they're fine aren't responding, because they're playing against the Korx right now?

So go ahead, tell me where you get the impression that we're a 'minority', show me where exactly you get this idea from, because, hell go FIND those threads about tech speeds and tech trading - nearly everyone wants a change, and they're usually lengthy, lively discussions about how the trading works, and debating how we'd fix it. The issue is what KIND of change. Extremely few people say that it should be unchanged.


Maybe you never noticed but these forums aren't exactly a lively place. Or here's a thought you clueless dolt - it could also be because the active posters here actively support a general tech tree cost / trade nerf overall! So if long-time, active posters like Scintor, Iztok, Zyxspilon, or others support something, it doesn't mean anything because remember: people who disagree just aren't posting their opinions.

You're justifying your position based soley on the fact that:
- Not enough random nobodies appear to support it.
- They all post in threads about it.
- They're wrong anyway because everyone else disagrees, they just don't use the forums to say so.

Most people here support a change to either tech trading or tech speeds, or both. Fact. Go prove that wrong if you want to make a fucking point one of these days.

My issue with the 'feature' is that, well, obviously getting one tech and watching EVERY tech explode through the roof by 2000 weeks was really quite unsettling, and I'm not sure I completely agree with increasing the costs of EVERYTHING.

It feels very Oblivion-esque, with that god-awful level-scaling.

I think I would've rather seen research itself follow an exponential curve, both production and on the tech tree.

The tech tree costs follow a very linear trend, with a few exceptions. Research production potential also follows a linear trend, but far more steep than tech costs. This means that if you match research progress with expansion, techs will generally be about as cheap as the last tech you researched.

If research output production followed an inverse exponential curve (meaning research potential 'caps out' after a while) while matching a normal exponential curve on the tech trees, that would mean that early-game techs would be easy to jump-start a civilization, and a modest amount of time would be spent mid-tech. The end-game techs would be very hard to reach and require a heavy investment.

Seems the idea solution, but the thought of changin all the tech values sounds... daunting.

(So naturally as I'm typing that rant, he posts something constructive. Damn it.)