Rezor

Join Date 02/2008

New Pc Specs Vs Sins

Building my new system and just wondering if ill be able to turn up full settings and be able to have massive battles without laggin.

Proc - Amd Athlon 64 4800+ Dual Core
4 gig pc 5300 ddr2
160 gig WD 7200 rpm
G Force 9600 GT OC

Now im debating on wether or not to drop 2 gigs of ram and go with the xfx 8800 GT with 512 ddr3 or keep my current 9600 GT OC with 512ddr3

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Sins is the game you have to worry the least about when building a new PC.

Get a larger hard drive!

-HM

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i dont need a bigger one ive used a 80 gig since 2001 160 will do me fine i dont DL alot of stuff anymore. Well i want to be able to run sins at max and cod4 and be able to do 10 player maps on sins and when the graphics mod comes out thats what im worried about.

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Worry about games like Crysis. Sins should play just fine. Others can chime in with respect to humongous galaxies and 300 players, but I really can't imagine you'll have any issues.

-HM

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i dont like crysis. Im a cod/css and rts player along with mmos i wish dx 10 would come to windows xp though. What do you think on the vid card should i drop down in ram for the better vid card or keep the ram and the little lower card

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My general point is that FPS games are the things that may possibly give you trouble. This game doesn't do nearly as many Space Pony tricks as those games.

I have an Intel e6600 (overclocked to about 3.0 GHz), 2 GB of RAM, and an 8800 GTS, and have no problems whatsoever at 1280x960 on XP Pro (in my opinion, forget Vista and any minor graphics boosts you'll get with DX10; it'll just slow you down). You should be just fine.

-HM

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It really depends on what you want to do with this computer. If you want to play a lot of high end graphical games, go the route that will help most with that. Sins doesn't really fall into that category, but high-powered equipment would always help.

Me personally? I always get as much RAM as possible first, then worry about the card. But, that's me. And I play with a pretty old card at the moment, so consider your own needs first.

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Multianna

Join Date 10/2006

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Well id suggest getting some faster ram instead of quantity. get 2 gig of PC 6400 instead

make sure the motherboard can support them

G Force 9600 GT OC - you get more for the money when considering the performance per dollar but it is slower then the 8800 GT.

heres a great guru3d.com article that does a huge test of the 9600 GT vs other cards like the 8800 GT

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you think the 4 gigs would perform as well as 2 gigs of 6400?

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Never mind i just found where i cna get 4 gigs of pc 6400 dd2 for 71.99 and its 39.99 after rebate so problem solved

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i would suggest having 2gb of ram, just cus with only 1gb of ram, most newer games will run extremely slow

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Ok so i got the final specs im gonna go with

Amd Athlon 64 4800+
4 gig ddr2 pc 6400 all 1 gig sticks
g force 9600gt oc
160 wd hard drive

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I have the XFX Extreme Alpha Dog edition 8800GT card...It's badass. It clocks faster than a whole bunch of "better" cards. Plus it's PCIe 2.0 That's massive bandwidth.

Keep 4 gigs of RAM though. If you have to drop your card level to keep the RAM, do so.

'Course...You could go with an 8 gig RAM / Dual SLI xfx8800GT extreme rig. I know for a fact that that's a killer setup.

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Bigger hard disk for sure - maybe even try SSD (solid state drive) for operating system or purely for games - conversely a new high rpm drive with 500gbs should last you much longer...

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hard drive is somthing i can always replace lol my wife is already pissed that i am spending more then 700 cas im buying a monitor. the hard drive isnt somthing im to worry about at the moment. The only way i could really upgrade the other stuff is if i returned my new samsung 19 wide screen with 2 ms response time and i dont know if i want to do that since my monitor is like 3 years old and i want somthing bigger.

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Dumb to get AMD, their processors are massively inferior compared to Wolfdale.

4GB is not a good idea either, you won't be able to use it in x86 and when you go to x64 you end up doubling the memory footprint anyway so it's useless.

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Play on a 40" HDTV! Nothing beats the scale esp when you power up all the effects!

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Based on your latest specs I'd suggest doing 2 sticks of 2GB ram, instead of 4 sticks of 1GB - works better, should be cheaper, and easier to upgrade later.

I will say this though, if it's between better graphics card or extra 2 Gigs of ram go with the graphics card. It's much easier to upgrade ram later on (just add a stick, right) and it'll more significantly boost your performance.

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Dumb to get AMD, their processors are massively inferior compared to Wolfdale.4GB is not a good idea either, you won't be able to use it in x86 and when you go to x64 you end up doubling the memory footprint anyway so it's useless.

I dont know what you mean by x86 and shit but i love amd proc and don't really want to do a different brand. Im buying all my stuff locally from micro center vs online. But if you can explain the x86 and x64 a bit better would be helpful before i go tomorrow to buy the rest of the stuff.

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AMD has higher die size and is a lot slower. The Wolfdale Intel chips are faster, more efficient, and can be overclocked to 4.2ghz on air. Respect your willingness to stay with a brand but AMD is no longer the powerhouse it was back in the P4 days. They are waaaaaay behind now and much lower-end chips and you'd be cheating yourself not to pick up a E8200/E8400.

Essentially, a non 64-bit system can't use 4GB of RAM. Even if you go 64-bit, what happens is that all the registers have to be doubled to account for all that memory and your application size is increased, which increases memory usage. So, there's no reason to go 4GB unless you like dealing with incompatible non-64 bit software, device driver problems, wasted money, or the same performance.

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