Great article. I've been thinking along those same lines for a few years now and it's always erked me. Especially things like not being able to have a "whites only" scholarship to match the blacks only scholarship.

We can never achieve equality if we don't truly believe and do things in equality.

just read one of cs-guy's articles on racism.

I wonder if you also read this article of mine.

I know what reverse racism is and it sucks!

I don't like the term "reverse racism". It's not reverse anything! It's just plain racism. Just because the person being discriminated against is white does not mean that it is not a case of racism.

are u frustrated because you are white? or do you have a real case? Dont fucking generalise just because you are not happy with the 50 non white people in your community...I have never asked anything from you and I never complain to you...and yes..my grammar is correct

Dont fucking generalise just because you are not happy with the 50 non white people in your community...

Oh, and the simple fact that you keep using the number 50 (implying that I am part of the majority) simply demonstrates just how vacuous your comments are.

As a white male I am most definitely not in the majority in my school, nor in my community.

Oh yes, I see numerous examples of this all the time. being a disabled white female. Now I have nothing at all against any other race. And have struggled to teach my children NOT to be racist, but its hard when its the *Other people* that scream, cry and shove it in their faces every day. My 16 year old son sees it at school from the staff NOT the students. His best friend was the victim of a racist teacher. She was black and he white. After talking to 10 other parents of other students who children were doing terribly in this womans class, somone pointed out that all the kids who had problems in her class were white. She was black.

And it wasnt even a white parent that pointed this out to the group. I know in my neighborhood its not the white or hispanics that keep the racism going. Its who? The black familys.

Now I get along with all my neighbors for the most part. The one family I dont is white. Just like me. But I can't stand spending much time around most of them cause every little thing that goes wrong according to the black familys in the neighborhood is because of the *whites* ..
Its easier to get jobs for minorities cause employers are affraid to *NOT* meet the quotas of minorities. So called minority groups get presidence on social economic help programs like HUD, Food stamps, welfare, food pantries etc. But we as a society have noone to blame but ourselves for allowing all these programs and grants etc in the first place. And not standing up for more equal rights in the first place. But you know on the same note try being a single white male and need help or money for something. Your even more out of luck then a white female. Now in this day and age of single MALE parents. Thats just sad.

white skin shouldnt entitle you to anything black skin doesn't.  

a longer life span, for example. 

 benefit of the doubt. 

more favorable interest rates.  

presumption of innocence. 

White Opressed Minority.

Until you breed more, you will lose.

Well put 4D, and I agree completely. I have not problem with my classmates who receive such scholarships. I am glad there are means and funds there for some of the students.

What I have a problem with is a system that ensures that there exist more funds and greater access to said funds for one race than for another. It is still a glaring inequality.

more favorable interest rates? I have never seen a bank say 5.9% for whites but 8.9% for blacks.

jill, you dont truly expect lenders to brag about it do you?

here's excerpt from an article in the real estate journal--published by the wall street journal--titled "Survey Shows Patterns Of Lender Discrimination" by Patrick Barta (dec 16, 2003) recapping the results of a study conducted by the national community reinvestment coalition. the author notes this study is particularly relevant because it surveyed groups of borrowers with similar credit factors, comparative incomes and properties. ncrc utilized the actual numeric credit quality scores from large credit-reporting bureau, matching them to actual government data.


The report examined lending patterns in 10 U.S. cities, including Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles, New York and Washington, D.C. It found, among other things, that borrowers who were refinancing their mortgages and lived in predominantly African-American neighborhoods were more likely to get higher-cost subprime loans than refinance borrowers in white neighborhoods in all 10 cities except New York, even when the neighborhoods had comparable credit characteristics. A similar pattern existed for mortgages on home purchases in six of the 10 cities. Subprime lending also was more prevalent in neighborhoods with large numbers of residents above 65 years of age, the study found.

In Houston, the study found that African-Americans were more likely to get subprime loans by a total of 41 percentage points. That means that if 10% of the refinance loans in a predominantly white neighborhood in Houston were subprime, 51% would be subprime in a Houston African-American neighborhood.

You are just showing your racist attitudes here.

thanks. it's mighty white of you to say so.

An individuals lifespan has mostly to do with how they care for their body.

minorities don't avail themselves of decent healthcare because they have an early death wish? the following is excerpted from 'Mortality Outlook: An Overview of African-American Health' by chiquita collins, published by the university of michigan. the disparity between white males and black males charted in this report was 8.2 years; white women to black women was 5.8 years (National Center for Health Statistics:. Health, United States, 1992. Table 27, pg. 44. Hyattsville, Maryland: Public Health Service, 1993)

Overall, African Americans more so than white Americans have higher incidence rates of mortality. Not only has the gap widened for overall mortality, the gap has widened tremendously for specific causes of death such as homicide and injury related mortality. In summary, African Americans in the United States suffer a greater disadvantage concerning their health outcomes compared to whites. High rates of mortality are higher for blacks among the late adolescent and early adulthood age groups than blacks of older age groups. In fact, mortality rates are only lower among blacks at the oldest ages of the life span when compared to whites. This phenomenon is commonly termed as the "mortality crossover."

Many have discredited the mortality crossover, stating that it is merely due to misreporting of ages at the oldest ages. Despite the controversy over the mortality crossover, there is reason to suggest that certain determinants are influencing African Americans at earlier ages during their life span that can explain this phenomenon. Socioeconomic status, whether measured by income, education, employment, occupation, poverty or wealth, traditionally has been one of the strongest determinants of variations in health in the general population (Kitagawa & Hauser, 1973; Haan & Kaplan, 1986; Feldman, et al 1989).

However, race also has an effect on health which is independent of its relationship with socioeconomic status. African Americans are more likely to receive inferior medical care as a result of their lower socioeconomic status and exposure to continued racial discrimination in the quality and quantity of health care services. Many important questions are raised regarding differential health that need to be addressed in the context of the ways in which racism affects mortality. Without primary policy efforts aimed at minority and ethnic populations for specific causes of death, we can not optimistically believe that racial mortality differentials will be reduced or eliminated anytime soon.

who says the black community gets more scholarships ? got some numbers to back that up or is it one of those things 'everyone' knows?

of course, its discrimination. im not familiar with any cultural preference for being ripped off but perhaps im not close enough to the street?
since its also being done to older people of all race--and nobody ever discriminates against them--perhaps youre suggesting ive got it 180 degrees reversed. rather than excluding blacks, unscrupulous lenders are welcoming them with open arms and taking care to make sure they get fleeced just as thoroughly as the next old person?

parental instruction is only relevant in that a lot of peoples' parents seem to have forgotten to teach their mendacious little future paragons of the community not to take advantage of others just because theyre able to do so.

HOWEVER, the disparity between medical treatment based on race is no longer as signifigant. Sorry, but that just doesn't hold true anymore

if, instead of assuming things were better, youd taken a minute to check the cdc's most recent data (which was updated in 2003 and 2004, but is still based on the years 1990-2001 (im using 1999 because its the last year that isnt going to be changed), youd have seen there is still a significant difference.  a white male born in 1999 has an expected lifespan of 74.6 years vs a black male's els of 67.8, a difference of 6.8 years; white female born in 1999 has an els of 79.9 vs a black female els of 75.4, for 4.5 years.