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Giving Planets

I'm looking ahead to multiplayer....

June 23, 2007 1:34:00 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
I know that this couldn't happen in single player (read the subtitle).

Lets say two players have been at war for...awhile, with one eventually pushing the other way back. The one that has been pushed back then comes under attack by pirates or another faction and can't handle a two front war. So the second guy asks the first guy for an alliance, and the first agrees as long as he gets some reparations. The second guy cannot meet the first guy's demands and asks if he could give something else to appease the first guy. The first guy thinks that if he wants to protect the second guy, he'd need a base in the second guy's territory. So the first guy picks out a planet held by the second guy. The second guy pulls out all of his ships and scuttles all the buildings, and the planet is evacuated (or the population stays there) and the second guy gets control.

So, basically, I'm wondering if in the online beta, not only can you give resources to help allies or as reparations, I'm wondering if you can give whole planets (because right now the only way for a planet to change owners is if it gets bombed, and allies can't bomb each other's planets).


Random question because I didn't feel like making it another topic: can you pay off your own bounty now (and I just didn't realize it) or can you pay it off in a furture patch/ beta?
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Reply #1 June 23, 2007 1:35:53 PM
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and the second guy gets control.


Sorry, ment first guy. Stinks you can't edit the first post.
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Reply #2 June 23, 2007 2:47:31 PM
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you CAN edit your first post, its under the TOOLS button on the right side.

you can't edit your second post though... so you still look like a noob
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Reply #3 June 23, 2007 2:51:41 PM
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Stang! Noob looks better like this tho: n00b.

So, what do you guys think (and can someone answer my question thats at the bottom?)?
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Reply #4 June 23, 2007 2:57:52 PM
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nope, you can't pay off your own bounty... though it would be sorta cool , i like it the way it is now.
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Reply #5 June 23, 2007 3:18:22 PM
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I think planet giving is a good idea, and would be useful, would be nice if the AI could do it too, just a thought, or could give an AI a planet?
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Reply #6 June 23, 2007 3:22:00 PM
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Hmm... I am not too fond of this planet trading idea...
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Reply #7 June 23, 2007 4:31:43 PM
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I don't see a point really. If I was the other guy I'd run in with my fleet while he's distracted with the pirates, not demand a planet. I already have enough resources, that's why I'm winning!

You'd have to list some more usefulnesses.
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Reply #8 June 23, 2007 4:42:14 PM
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Maybe one of the planets makes a special type of self cleaning underwear you might want...

/lordkosc wonders if he had one to many beers on this nice weekend...
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Reply #9 June 23, 2007 5:08:48 PM
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Well, I find this planet trading sort of cool, it kind of represents how easy it is to change rulers in a planet with enough money .

I can see a good use to this when there are more than two players on a game with different alliances. Players withing the same team might wan't to be able to trade planets for tactical importance. At the start of a game you kind of just colonize everything you see, however if you end up with an ally, one planet might be much more useful to the other player than to you (or vice versa) thus making planet trading very useful.

On a second idea abandoning a planet could also be a possibility thus giving it up for another player to take, although making it risky since a raiding fleet might come in just that moment to take out the colonizators and claim the abandoned planet as his/her own .
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Reply #10 June 23, 2007 5:51:26 PM
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Now that's more interesting; abondoning a colony. I could find a use for that.
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Reply #11 June 23, 2007 6:44:50 PM
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Maybe something like scuttling a planet: You evac the population, and dismantle the infrastructure (done gradually, because it should take a long time), and get cash out of it. Could be useful if there is a massive enemy fleet coming, and you can't hold them at your frontline worlds.
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Reply #12 June 23, 2007 7:40:47 PM
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scuttling the planet should kill it off, we have dead asteroids, why not dead planets? also it could / should take out the resource asteroids that surround it, therefore it makes the planet worthless to any invading player, I suppose you could transform it back to a alive planet? (minus resources of course) maybe through a tech, terraforming, so that it can be fully upgradable again, and can be a cap planet if need be, but terraforming tech should be pretty high up the tech tree,
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Reply #13 June 23, 2007 8:01:19 PM
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Just wait till we encounter that Vasari planet sucker thingy, that thing will easily lay waste to a planet....
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Reply #14 June 23, 2007 8:16:00 PM
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No dead planets. That's just cruel. Unless we're talking about Vasari. Then that's okay.
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Reply #15 June 23, 2007 8:20:25 PM
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I think dead planets should be in as a last resort, it would make it worthless to the attacking player, and would take him a while and resources to change it back, I personally think it should be in the game,
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Reply #16 June 23, 2007 8:28:21 PM
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That's the problem. It's kind of cheap.
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Reply #17 June 23, 2007 8:31:08 PM
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That's the problem. It's kind of cheap.


Agreed!
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Reply #18 June 24, 2007 1:35:27 PM
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Yeah, I agree that you shouldn't be able to lay waste to an entire planet like that, at least not your own planet.

When evacuating an entire planet you probably don't have time to destroy the earth so deeply that it can't be used again, not by common means anyway. Also it would be to easy, no real disadvantage of leaving a planet if you're on the loosing side, instead if the enemy can take the planet it becomes a matter of evaluating the situation. "Should I try to stay and fight? I might have a chance after all.. Or should I abandon the planet.. And build a stronger force to get it back later?..." Etc.

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Kind of like how the fleet abandons New Caprica when the Sylon arrives just to build up the strength and intelligence to take it back later on.
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Reply #19 June 24, 2007 2:23:27 PM
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hmm, you could be right, but still it should be made harder for recolonisation, at least cost the attacking player a bit more to setup the infrastructure then the player that originally owned it, could still reflect some damage done to the planet or blockading parts of it, like some of the population still holding out to let the others escape, hence the increase in cost to wipe them out and clean up the planet to make way for the new rulers
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Reply #20 June 25, 2007 8:39:52 PM
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Why would there be an increase in cost? All they do anyway is just purge the planet of all life and infrastructure from orbit.
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