Sins Community Update » Forum Post by Yarlen

sorry i thought it was a ring toss game

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damn... I'm actually going to have to work for a chance at this.
fine... I'll get started.

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way to suck up to the "man" Schem.

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hey, I was the first to whine about how the beta is too limited. I wont be kept from this, supposedly more fully-fledged beta.

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I know I am out.

I blame the socio-economic standing I currently am intrailed in.

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I just was wondering, does this game allow for more defensive strategies? I missed beta 1 and plan to preorder before the June beta when I find out what my address will be (I am moving sometime next month, so I can't have it shipped to this address). The reason I ask is because a number of recent games have made a defensive play all but impossible, with Supreme Commander being the only exception I can think of at the moment. I know that the best defense is a good offense, but it is occasionally fun when your losing to wage that final desparate defense of your last planet that makes your enemy pay dearly, somewhat like in the Halo novel "The Fall of Reach" where the successful defense of planet Reach hinged on wether or not the orbital guns remained operational.

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yeah. defense is easy. some would argue (including myself, an addicted turtler) that defense is too easy.

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While I'm still thinking about it, does anyone have some good screenshots of the TEC (Marza class?) dreadnought, or was that in the Beta?

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Marza Class is in the beta. Here a Picture:

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Thanks for your quick reply, Emperor Xavior. How well does it do in battle, and I'm also curious to hear from anyone on their suggestions on when and how to use it in battle (strengths and weaknesses). Also, as a possibility, perhaps we should start a post on the different ships featured so far in the game? At least until they bring back the ships section on the site.

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It focus mainly vs planet, and has ability that does damage over time to other ships. I will come back with photo of ship ability in another post.

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@Zim - I have found it lacking in battle as a capital ship. It should really be a support ship given its current configuration. To me a dreadnought should be the ultimate battleship platform. This puppy is merely a focused planet killer. That is not something I consider a front line war-fighter. In more conventional terms, it is akin to artillery and not a tank.

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It can kinda kill platform if not fast but somewhat better, with the damage over time ability.

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Once you get it to level 6 and get the "missile barrage" ability it can be pretty nasty. That basically sends a barrage of missiles at every hostile target in range simultaneously.

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Thanks for the info. I definitely agree with 1Spartan. It should be the ultimate battleship. What about its armor and ability to withstand damage? That alone may even it out a bit.

"Stop exploding you cowards!"-Capt. Brannigan to fleet in Futurama.

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its good that they want to develop hte game further

I just hope they work on the graphics engine as well, it looks ok at the moment about as good as homeworld 2 a few yers back.. the planets and backdrops are really nice.. but i really dont think the ships are upto todays standards let alone 2008s..

Tho dont get me wrong this game is real good.. and i look forward to the final release of the game.

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Yarlen

Join Date 01/2005

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It would be helpful if comments on the graphics could be a bit more specific. I don't want to offend any Homeworld 2 fans, but the graphics in that game weren't that good. IMO, Sins graphics are far superior in every way.

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its good that they want to develop hte game further

I just hope they work on the graphics engine as well, it looks ok at the moment about as good as homeworld 2 a few yers back.. the planets and backdrops are really nice.. but i really dont think the ships are upto todays standards let alone 2008s..

Tho dont get me wrong this game is real good.. and i look forward to the final release of the game.

what about our ships looks out of date? I'm looking at other RTS Games (supcom, C&C) and our ships look just as good... Thanks fo rthe Planet and backdrop reply though, we work hard to get those looking great.

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I dont think the ships look "outdated" in any regard. I think people tend to use that term incorrectly with regards to models. As far as I'm concerned, they[the ships] have distinctive asymmetric characteristics for the most part and have a multi color palette and are peppered with lighting effects. All of which are indicative of advanced model design.

I think the intended use is regarding models that are boxy in design and where one can clearly see the texture meeting points and wraps.

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Yeah i never ment it a slant at your guys work.. much better than i could ever dream of doing..

Plus i guess for the scalability the ships cant have super high textures as it might get too much for he system to handle all those ships..

tho I am unsure if the ships on get rendered when you soon right in I would guess they do..

I actually quite like the design of the ships themselves.. im just thinking that in 2008 there are gonig to be much better looking games out there. Im pritty happy with the fact that this game is going to be awesome when its released.. just a lot of people purly buy the games on graphics quality or at least look at the first when buying games.

The fact the the game is very playable this early on is really good and just shows how godo u guys are at your jobs I really ment no offense by my earleir post.

Just for comparison one of your screenshots

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/289/935993_20061017_screen004.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesx_news/Screenshots/ss00012.jpg

your ship models are much better but i really dont think the textures are much further on than homeworld... again i really dont care about this myself as im getting the game no matter what hehe

as I have already spent my tickets on it

I just think a lot of people will look at this and think it looks old.. well in 2008 anyway

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lordkosc

Join Date 12/2006

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It would be helpful if comments on the graphics could be a bit more specific. I don't want to offend any Homeworld 2 fans, but the graphics in that game weren't that good. IMO, Sins graphics are far superior in every way.

I feel offended...

Ok not really...

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Yeah i never ment it a slant at your guys work.. much better than i could ever dream of doing..

Plus i guess for the scalability the ships cant have super high textures as it might get too much for he system to handle all those ships..

tho I am unsure if the ships on get rendered when you soon right in I would guess they do..

I actually quite like the design of the ships themselves.. im just thinking that in 2008 there are gonig to be much better looking games out there. Im pritty happy with the fact that this game is going to be awesome when its released.. just a lot of people purly buy the games on graphics quality or at least look at the first when buying games.

The fact the the game is very playable this early on is really good and just shows how godo u guys are at your jobs I really ment no offense by my earleir post.

Just for comparison one of your screenshots

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/289/935993_20061017_screen004.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesx_news/Screenshots/ss00012.jpg

your ship models are much better but i really dont think the textures are much further on than homeworld... again i really dont care about this myself as im getting the game no matter what hehe

as I have already spent my tickets on it

I just think a lot of people will look at this and think it looks old.. well in 2008 anyway

well, i wasn't being offended, Artists like feedback, I just wanted to know where you guys felt we were behind...

Either way, Homeworld has some really awesome textures, so thanks for the compliment;) Reason our textures look the same is cause we're using roughly the same size maps... Can't make a pixel any smaller

BTW, that screenshot example you used is old;) Check out the UI
haha

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What I would really like to see added to the ships graphically is a fleet number that we can manually assign after we name it. I think a feature like that will add a level of polish to the game unmatched as far as I know. I figure it could be done the way scaring is done.

BTW: I would have suggested auto numbering based on the ship yard but I figured that would be to much code work.

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Yarlen

Join Date 01/2005

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I think the intended use is regarding models that are boxy in design and where one can clearly see the texture meeting points and wraps.

There's a definite issue on ATI video cards where you can see seams all over the place, however, on Nvidia cards it's fine. Not sure what's up with that.

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Blair Fraser

Join Date 10/2006

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We hope to have the ATI issues all resolved for the next patch, if not the following beta. The most prominent ones being the seam issue and the glowing asteroids.

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