Yep. The shields should be on the planet for the class three planets. I dont mind however seeing orbital shield generators for the lessor class planets. However I cant reconcile the justification for it.

Regarding orbital structures, once a planet is taken then should also have to be destroyed. This game is currently a genocidal game. So lets not loose site of that minor inconvenience.

I have played for a while now and conqured my entire solar system. During the final elimination of one of the aliens, he offered a peace treaty which I ignored and then when he was wiped off the map, his hand was still outstretched and nothing would remove it. I also suffered a CTD when in the second planet capture in a second solar system. Played large map. I have run out of things to research. Hope there will be more in the next beta.

I can see the total destruction tactics between the TEC and Advent, based on the lore's explanation of complete cultural disgust between them and the likelyhood, therefore, of anything being left behind being boobytrapped to a fare-thee-well.

The Vasari, with their history of using other populations, would probably not have started out that way, but if they got the benefit of the TEC/Advent attitude towards each other, I think they would have learned quickly to respond in kind.

@Schem - umm.. We [me, Marrx, SrG and Para] are on the same side as you on this issue brother.

Your last post reads like you think we are against the position.

Also, there are some of us who are thinking about making maps that would contain a single super sized gravity well. Inside this single gravity well, we could make many separate star systems complete with planets and asteroids. This would be another way to make free movement mods without having to mess with phase lanes.

But for this to work, there are a 2 effects that need to be modable in the core game.

1. We need to be able to mod ships to be able to jump into Phase Space within gravity wells.

2. We need to be able to mod Phase Space Inhibitors so they have a adjustable spherical range instead of having a gravity well wide effect.


*Not critical, but being able to mod in sensor ranges would be a nice touch.

I got a victory screen with an option to continue when I won my first game if I remember correctly.

Well, it looks like the Phase Lane concept is here to stay. Nor does it look like it will be possible for modders to mod the Phase Lanes out of existence and form fully open connection maps.

I had wondered if it would instead be possible to make a single Huge gravity well that contains all the stars/planets/asteroids needed to make several entire star systems. This would be another way to get by the Phase Lane constraints. The problem here would be that ships would need to be able to use Phase Space travel within a single gravity well without Phase Lanes being present. Also, Phase Space Inhibitors would need to have a limited spherical effect instead of a gravity well wide effect.

Unfortunately, Yarlen has indicated that the above is not likely to be possible. Frankly, I am not surprised.

That really leaves one method left for those of us who want to play open connection (or semi open connection) maps. It might still be possible to make custom maps where all gravity wells are connected to all other gravity wells. I do hope we can make the phase lanes invisible though, or these maps will likely resemble spider webs to some extent.

Please Ironclad, do not remove this last open connection map option for us modders. Many of us want to make mods that use open connection or semi open connection maps.

I wish they would just open up a download with the open system, at least for us to see.

I agree, would be nice to try out.

Bummer some people like the "whack-a-mole" effect in strategy games because it really tests your metal.

Seriously are you saying that providing us with a "modded" open map, since we cant do it ourselves yet, to test thing out on would require reengineering the game code? If that is so I'm shocked and amazed as that would likely mean modding would be highly crippled to say the least.

As long as we can make custom maps with any phase lane connections we want in the final game release, I can wait.